Are we falling into despair?

[rayne89]

What is going on?

An Illinois man attempted to rob a gun shop and steal a weapon so that he could rescue Terri Schiavo, authorities said.
-From another post

There is someone on this forum who would this?

Protecting the innocent from those who would murder them is not murder.
-a reply

And who would this person use this gun on to get inside? The cop outside has a wife and children at home. The doctors, nurses, volunteer hospice workers.
Even if it was Michael Shiavo -he has 2 children innocent of this mess, would we deprive them of thier father.

And what about this from another thread
I will never go to the hospital again None of us are safe.By court order you can be snuffed out

Panic, despair, irrational thinking? If Terri wouldn't have gone to the hospital she would have died 15 years ago.


Im just calling for gov bush to either call the melitia, in which case if that venue is used I highly doubt a shot will get fired. as far is civil disobience the only shots will be fired by the police on american citizens in which case the blood is on their hands, in which case the ones firing on common us citizens their actions are worthy of hellfire. now is terri's life worth saving or not? if it is, after all that has happened till now, the end justifys the mean!
- from another thread
The end justifies the means?

define above the law. Id like to think any of us here our right to live supercedes any law.
-same poster and thread
Any law? What about God's law?

I have prayed, I have fasted, I have contacted officials. My heart is broken for what has happened to Terri but this is not first person to die this way - because of her we have been made aware.
Babies are slaughtered in abortions clinics everyday would be condone the blowing up of abortion clinics, the assasination of abortionists?
We must not return evil with evil. The devil would love for us to lose hope, love for us to fall into despair. I wouldn't doubt it if that is satan's greatest hope in all this.

"Look at your people now God! How quickly they fall into depair. How they now preach violence. How they forget their hope and their trust in you, in your divine will. How easy it has been for me to effect so many - you're people are weak." -Satan

Ok if Terri's life will not be spared, then pray for God's angel's to comfort her, pray that her suffering will save souls not cause people to lose them. I know we all have been praying for Terri and her family, and should even be praying for Michael. And when God calls her home, as grieved as we will be for an innocent life lost, praise God that she is free from her broken body and will suffer no longer at the hands of men.
Praise be to Jesus Christ, now and forever!


7. But we hold this treasure in earthen vessels, that the surpassing power may be of God and not from us.
8. We are afflicted in every way, but not constrained; perplexed, but not driven to despair;
9. persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed;
10. always carrying about in the body the dying of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our body.
11. For we who live are constantly being given up to death for the sake of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may be manifested in our mortal flesh.
12. So death is at work in us, but life in you.
13. Since, then, we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, "I believed, therefore I spoke," we too believe and therefore speak,
14. knowing that the one who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and place us with you in his presence.
15. Everything indeed is for you, so that the grace bestowed in abundance on more and more people may cause the thanksgiving to overflow for the glory of God.
2 Cor 4:7-15

[rayne89]

If I were to hear of someone today killing Michael Shiavo to clear the way for the parents to be the sole guardians...I'd be the first to send money for that persons defense fund.
-post from another thread

What?!!
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come;
thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen

[jman507]

Oh it seems we have been living during Good Friday for a whole week. If you start feeling hopeless, and hoping someone would take some violent action, take a step back. Meditate on the Our Father.

Remember we are an Easter people. If anything take time to mediate on how they felt on Good Friday. Then remember that when we get to the Saturday Vigil, we have victory. Terri will be fine no matter what happens. Don't harden your hearts like the others. Understand, you don't need to do it all. Do what you can and put it in the Lord's hands. Peter could walk on water so long as he kept his eye's on Jesus, he fell once he took his eyes off of him. What we need is conversions, that does not come with matching violent act for another. Oh yes it comes with some action, but only so long as it's done with love, not hate. And with the being with God, not with evil.

[gilliam]

You all need to make sure that pro-life judges are appointed and approved by the Legislature. That is your mission from here on out.

[Lisa4Catholics]

I will never go to the hospital again None of us are safe.By court order you can be snuffed out This would be me It may be irrational,but from the ideas I am hearing from doctors the american public and the courts,I do not trust anymore I do trust God,but most of America has banned Him.

[Lisa4Catholics]

Sean Hannity talking to Terri's brother and sister (last night).
Terri was not allowed Extreme Unction !

The brother said the hospice people would not allow the family close to Terri.

Terri's sister said the POLICE would not allow a Priest to go inside the hospice. She truly was denied the Last Rites.

I have never imagined that here in the United States that POLICE would keep a Priest away from a dying human who happen to be a Catholic. But they did.
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[masondoggy]

Originally Posted by Lisa4Catholics

Sean Hannity talking to Terri's brother and sister (last night).
Terri was not allowed Extreme Unction !

The brother said the hospice people would not allow the family close to Terri.

Terri's sister said the POLICE would not allow a Priest to go inside the hospice. She truly was denied the Last Rites.

I have never imagined that here in the United States that POLICE would keep a Priest away from a dying human who happen to be a Catholic. But they did.
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So apparently George Felos lied to the public.

Why am I not surprised?

[shannon e]

Originally Posted by gilliam

You all need to make sure that pro-life judges are appointed and approved by the Legislature. That is your mission from here on out.

And to be open to every opportunity to open peoples' eyes to the fact that Sanctity of Life is the Truth-- and this idolatry of quality of life is nothing more than lies from the evil one.

But most importantly, we have to be open to every opportunity that the Holy Spirit offers, to teach that man is subject to God.

[rayne89]

There is nothing wrong with holding the hospice staff hostage and forcing them to feed Terri. I think it's a lovely idea that would accomplish the main objective.
-another wonderful "Christian" post on a different thread.

[Lisa4Catholics]

Originally Posted by rayne89

There is nothing wrong with holding the hospice staff hostage and forcing them to feed Terri. I think it's a lovely idea that would accomplish the main objective.
-another wonderful "Christian" post on a different thread.

Agreed

[aspawloski4th]

rayne89. Im not falling into dispair, I just dont put a lot of worry in what method I use to get things done. I am a getting things done mode personality,intrinically and also tought to be that way by my parents, who are ten times more so than I am. but Im puting my faith where my mouth is. I know where I can get some free scapulars, likely in just a day or 2, and once I get an adress where the schindlers can be reached, Im having them sent right to them. we are going to try and get one on terri, and just maybee a mericle can happen, if not she defintely not see hellfire forsure, and because of the meraculous medal that will come with the scapulars, any purgatory time will be minimized! back to melitias, they are constitutional 100%, right to life is the first right guarenteed in our constitution, it is totally legal in this case.

[philipmarus]

I heard Rush today. The reason I mention it was that a Doctor who practiced 30 years called in. He had resigned from Medical ethics boards after other doctors at his own hospital tried to "pull the plug" on his own mother who was unconscious but not dead. His mother later became conscious but has since died of subsequent illness 2 years ago. This doctor's point was that there were plenty of doctor's eager to kill someone who was not dead. This is scary.

[Ani Ibi]

Originally Posted by rayne89

There is nothing wrong with holding the hospice staff hostage and forcing them to feed Terri. I think it's a lovely idea that would accomplish the main objective.
-another wonderful "Christian" post on a different thread.

Hi there Rayne. Some questions for you:

1) Got any constructive ideas or does knocking things down do it for you?

2) Have you read Fr Pavone's call to civil disobedience?

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Lisa4Catholics

I will never go to the hospital again None of us are safe.By court order you can be snuffed out This would be me It may be irrational,but from the ideas I am hearing from doctors the american public and the courts,I do not trust anymore I do trust God,but most of America has banned Him.

I don't know how many of you have had hospital care at a non-Catholic hospital lately. It's pretty scary. Patients are not the top priority. Politics is.

[tuopaolo]

Originally Posted by Lisa4Catholics

Agreed

Just to be clear I was not the one who made the statement about it being lovely, but did you two have this reaction when you saw (if you did see) the movie John Q? I bet you didn't. Why then the difference in your reaction?