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Old May 26, '10, 12:57 pm
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Default Wed Mass Readings / Commentary (adherence to Truth [Jesus] purifies us / Jesus foretells His Agony / the greatest one in the kingdom is the servant of all)

May 26, 2010
Wednesday of the Eighth Week in Ordinary Time


Wed Mass Readings / Commentary (adherence to Truth [Jesus] purifies us / Jesus foretells His Agony / the greatest one in the kingdom is the servant of all)

1 Pt 1:18-25


Beloved:
Realize that you were ransomed from your futile conduct,
handed on by your ancestors,

not with perishable things like silver or gold
but with the precious Blood of Christ
as of a spotless unblemished Lamb.
He was known before the foundation of the world
but revealed in the final time for you,

who through him believe in God
who raised him from the dead and gave him glory,
so that your faith and hope are in God.

Since you have purified yourselves
by obedience to the truth for sincere brotherly love,
love one another intensely from a pure heart.

You have been born anew,
not from perishable but from imperishable seed,
through the living and abiding word of God, for:

“All flesh is like grass,
and all its glory like the flower of the field;
the grass withers,
and the flower wilts;
but the word of the Lord remains forever.”
This is the word that has been proclaimed to you.

Ps 147:12-13, 14-15, 19-20
Responsorial Psalm


R. (12a) Praise the Lord, Jerusalem.

Glorify the LORD, O Jerusalem;
praise your God, O Zion.
For he has strengthened the bars of your gates;
he has blessed your children within you.
R. Praise the Lord, Jerusalem.

He has granted peace in your borders;
with the best of wheat he fills you.
He sends forth his command to the earth;
swiftly runs his word!
R. Praise the Lord, Jerusalem.

He has proclaimed his word to Jacob,
his statutes and his ordinances to Israel.
He has not done thus for any other nation;
his ordinances he has not made known to them. Alleluia.
R. Praise the Lord, Jerusalem.

Mk 10:32-45
Gospel


The disciples were on the way, going up to Jerusalem,
and Jesus went ahead of them.
They were amazed, and those who followed were afraid.
Taking the Twelve aside again, he began to tell them
what was going to happen to him.
“Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man
will be handed over to the chief priests and the scribes,
and they will condemn him to death
and hand him over to the Gentiles who will mock him,
spit upon him, scourge him, and put him to death,
but after three days he will rise.”


Then James and John, the sons of Zebedee,
came to Jesus and said to him,
“Teacher, we want you to do for us whatever we ask of you.”
He replied, “What do you wish me to do for you?”
They answered him,
“Grant that in your glory
we may sit one at your right and the other at your left.”
Jesus said to them, “You do not know what you are asking.
Can you drink the chalice that I drink
or be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?”
They said to him, “We can.”
Jesus said to them, “The chalice that I drink, you will drink,
and with the baptism with which I am baptized, you will be baptized;
but to sit at my right or at my left is not mine to give
but is for those for whom it has been prepared.”

When the ten heard this, they became indignant at James and John.
Jesus summoned them and said to them,
“You know that those who are recognized as rulers over the Gentiles
lord it over them,
and their great ones make their authority over them felt.
But it shall not be so among you.
Rather, whoever wishes to be great among you will be your servant
;
whoever wishes to be first among you will be the slave of all.
For the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve
and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
.

i always thought it was very strange that the 2 apostles asked of Jesus this seemingly selfish request right after He had told them about His impending agony and death (??) kinda strange, but maybe they just didn't want to face what Jesus was saying (?).

Those who seek power over others will not like this passage where Jesus says that the greatest among them is the servant of all.

another interesting psg:

Since you have purified yourselves
by obedience to the truth for sincere brotherly love,
love one another intensely from a pure heart


here love and truth are mentioned together, almost as though they are the same thing... which they are.. with God. In Heaven there is perfect truth and perfect love. As it says elsewhere (St Jn 4) "God is love." To love others is to live truth...

only problem is: How do we really love people? Being nice to them is not enough. Another scripture says something about snatching them from the fire (Hell, presumably). Sometimes you have to do odd things in an effort to snatch them from the fire... and some people don't always think those things you do (TRY to do) are very loving... but oh well. People think a lot of weird things... and sometimes herd mentality... Groupthink takes over...
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Old May 26, '10, 1:44 pm
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but to sit at my right or at my left is not mine to give
but is for those for whom it has been prepared.”
Whenever this passage is read, I think of Mary. I think the one "for whom it has been prepared" "to sit at my right" is the Queen Mother (Mary) of the King (Jesus) - according to the Jewish tradition.
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Whenever this passage is read, I think of Mary. I think the one "for whom it has been prepared" "to sit at my right" is the Queen Mother (Mary) of the King (Jesus) - according to the Jewish tradition.
oh darn - i thought it was for ME!!

but seriously... I never thought of that.. always wondered who could possibly be "good enough"... never thought of Mary for some reason... hmmm...

but i love Mary... so not sure why i didn't think of her.. Its interesting that when i pray to Mary, something very different happesn to me than when i pray to Jesus... Again, i feel sorry for people who don't have all the blessings we Catholics have...
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It is strange, isn't it? It's like they knew that His death meant His coming kingdom,
and they, to reign with Him.

Wonder why the other disciples were not indignant against them until Jesus
said, "that is not mine to give". Maybe they were waiting, thinking Jesus may
grant their request and they better not offend them in any way.

And how did James and John share in Jesus' baptism of pain? How were their
deaths similar? Didn't John die of old age? What if Jesus thought they may yet
stand with Him and die with Him at that time? Remember, He said He didn't know
the hour of His return, what if He also didn't know whether His disciples would
abandon Him or not?
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It is strange, isn't it? It's like they knew that His death meant His coming kingdom,
and they, to reign with Him.

Wonder why the other disciples were not indignant against them until Jesus
said, "that is not mine to give". Maybe they were waiting, thinking Jesus may
grant their request and they better not offend them in any way.

And how did James and John share in Jesus' baptism of pain? How were their
deaths similar? Didn't John die of old age? What if Jesus thought they may yet
stand with Him and die with Him at that time? Remember, He said He didn't know
the hour of His return, what if He also didn't know whether His disciples would
abandon Him or not?
if Jesus knew he would be crucified... i would think he would also know about them abandoning him.. He predicted Peter would..

i never thought of how they may have known he was going to come soon into His kingdom and thats possibly why they asked about reining w/ Him... hmmm... That would explain the seemingly odd change of tone of the passage.. I mean, it always seemed strange that Jesus would be talking about all thi horrible stuff thats going to happen to Him and the 2 bring up some comparatively unimportant issue..

I like when Jesus says "You dont know what you are asking" just sounds kinda funny... Maybe he was thinking, "If you only knew how ignorant you are.."
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And how did James and John share in Jesus' baptism of pain? How were their
deaths similar? Didn't John die of old age?
James was martyred in Jerusalem (Acts 12:2).
Altho St. John died of old age (the only apostle not to be martyred) he also suffered for the faith. Altho not recorded in Scripture, tradition has it that at one point he was thrown into a pot of boiling oil - but miraculously preserved from death by God. Still, must have be pretty scary. We know from Scripture that he experienced being exiled. (Rev 1:9).
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James was martyred in Jerusalem (Acts 12:2).
Altho St. John died of old age (the only apostle not to be martyred) he also suffered for the faith. Altho not recorded in Scripture, tradition has it that at one point he was thrown into a pot of boiling oil - but miraculously preserved from death by God. Still, must have be pretty scary. We know from Scripture that he experienced being exiled. (Rev 1:9).
thanks... i had forgotten about that burning oil thing..

and he still lived to be 100..

wow... i guess when God saves you miraculously... He really does a good jjob.
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