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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the document written by Pope Pius X?
yes - 100% 8 61.54%
yes, with reservations 3 23.08%
no 2 15.38%
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Old Jun 18, '10, 2:17 pm
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The Syllabus of Errors
Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office – July 3, 1907





Pope St Pius X ordered that each and every one of the following positions be held by all as condemned and proscribed:


2. [The] Church’s interpretation… of the Sacred Books is subject to the more accurate judgment and correction of the exegetes.

3. Catholic teaching cannot really be reconciled with the true origins of the Christian religion.

4. [The] Church’s magisterium cannot determine the genuine sense of the Sacred Scriptures.

5. [The] Church has no right to pass judgment on the assertions of the human sciences.

7. In proscribing errors, the Church cannot demand any internal assent from the faithful

8. They are free from all blame who treat lightly the condemnations passed by the Sacred Congregation of the Index…

9. They display excessive simplicity or ignorance who believe that God is really the author of the Sacred Scriptures.

11. Divine inspiration does not extend to all of Sacred Scripture…

12. [The] exegete must first put aside all preconceived opinions about the supernatural origins of Sacred Scripture and interpret t the same as any other merely human document.

14. In many narrations the [original] Evangelists recorded… things which, even though false, they judged to be more profitable for the readers.

16. The narrations of John are not properly history….

17. The fourth Gospel exaggerated miracles.

18. [St] John is only a distinguished witness of the Christian life…

19. Heterodox exegetes have expressed the true sense of the scriptures more faithfully than [orthodox] Catholic exegetes.

21. Revelation… was not completed with the Apostles.

22. The dogmas the Church holds out as revealed are not truths which have [been revealed from Heaven].

23. Opposition may, and actually does, exist between the facts narrated in sacred Scripture and the Church’s dogmas…

27. The divinity of Jesus… is not proved from the Gospels.

28. Jesus did not speak with the object of teaching He was the Messia[h], nor did His miracles tend to prove it.

30. [The] name “son of God”… does not in the least way signify that Christ is the true and natural Son of God. [Jehovah’s Witnesses, Muslims, etc.]

31. The doctrine concerning Christ taught by Paul, John and the Councils… is not that which Jesus taught…

35. Christ did not always posses the consciousness of His Messianic dignity.

36. The Resurrection… is not properly a [historic] fact

38. The doctrine of the expiatory death of Christ is… not evangelical.

39. The opinions concerning the origin of the Sacraments… are very different from those which now rightly exist among historians who examine Christianity.

41. The Sacraments are intended merely to recall to man’s mind the ever-beneficent presence of the Creator.

43. The practice of administering Baptism to infants was a disciplinary evolution.

44. The formal distinction of the two Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation does not pertain to the history of primitive Christianity.

45. Not everything [that] Paul narrates concerning the institution of the Eucharist (1 Corinthians 11:23-35) is to be taken historically.

46. In the primitive Church the concept of the Christian sinner reconciled by the authority of the Church did not exist… [Even] after Penance was recognized… it was not called a Sacrament since it would be held as a disgraceful Sacrament.

47. [St] John 20:22-23 in no way refer[s] to the Sacrament of Penance…

50. The elders who fulfilled the office of [pastor] were [not] instituted by the Apostles as priests or bishops… for the perpetration of the Apostolic mission and power.

51. It is impossible that Matrimony could have become a Sacrament of the new law until later in the Church…

52. It was far from the mind of Christ to found a Church as a society which would continue on [E]arth for a long course of centuries

53. Christian society is subject to a perpetual evolution.

54. Dogmas, Sacraments and hierarchy… are only interpretations and evolutions of the Christian intelligence…

55. Simon Peter never even suspected that Christ entrusted the primacy in the Church to him.

56. The Roman Church became the head of all the churches… merely through political conditions.

57. The Church has shown that she is hostile to the progress of the natural and theological sciences.

58. Truth… evolved with [man], in him, and through him.

59. Christ did not teach a determined body of doctrine applicable to all times and all men, but rather… a religious movement… to be adapted to different times and places.

61. [T]here is no chapter of Scripture… which contains a doctrine absolutely identical with that which the Church teaches on the same matter.

62. The chief articles of the Apostles’ Creed did not have the same sense for the Christians of the first age as they have for the Christians of our time.

63. The Church shows that she… obstinately clings to immutable doctrines which cannot be reconciled with modern progress. […so called]

64. Scientific progress demands that the concepts of Christian doctrine concerning God, creation, revelation, he Person of the Incarnate Word, and Redemption be re-adjusted.

65. Modern Catholicism can be reconciled with true science only if it is transformed into a non-dogmatic Christianity; that is to say, into a broad and liberal Protestantism.
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Old Jun 18, '10, 2:21 pm
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Default Re: Catholic or Protestant... Do you agree with this document?

it seems that a lot of clergy these days believe in #63 and #65... and a few others.. .meaning they do not think those items should be proscribed...

Do you think the Church is adhering to this document today?

If not, why do you say it isn't?

btw: a few of the items have been left out, for the sake of brevity)
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There seems to be some flexibility when it comes to historical facts.
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There seems to be some flexibility when it comes to historical facts.
hmm... no comprendo...

care to elaborate??
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Old Jun 18, '10, 2:57 pm
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hmm... no comprendo...

care to elaborate??
This isn't a document but a list of errors. That's all
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Old Jun 18, '10, 3:45 pm
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Default Re: Catholic or Protestant... Do you agree with this document?

Catholics who do not agree 100% with this definitive moral teaching of the Church are separating themselves from communion with her.

Since I don't want to do that, my choice was direct.

It is interesting to note that the errors are still active principles against which Catholics must remain on guard to this day.

Blessings,

Gerry
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