62% of Catholics want change.

[Scott_Lafrance]

Today's poll question at www.excite.com references this very thing.

[Teresita]

Originally Posted by tkdnick

I suggest that the first natural law suspended by our new Pope is that fat is stored! I say the Pope makes a decree that from now on fat leaves the body instantly.

AMEN, BROTHER!!! (Sister?)

Some more laws we want changed:

We want parallel lines to meet before infinity (it's so unfair...)
We want alcohol to inebriate without causing drunkenness.
We want sex without consequences.
We want to be able to have our cake AND eat it.
We want heaven on earth.

Sue

[K-McD]

Originally Posted by mtr01

Natural Law is regarded as the Laws of God that are written on our hearts. Natural Law is in the domain of philosphy, theology and ethics, as opposed to science (which is concerned with physical law). Catholic moral doctrine is based on Natural Law (for example "Thou shalt not kill" - it doesn't take the Bible to tell us that killing is wrong, it is something we all should know). Using "Natural Law" to refer to the laws of physics, for example, is a misuse of the term according to acceptage usage, therefore the "joke poll" you posted was confusing, as I'm sure that there are Catholics who would like aspects of Natural Law changed to justify their lifestyles.

Now! Its no fun when you get technical!

I agree with your post and I stand corrected. The proper way to have expressed the "absurdity by being absurd" would have been to use term, "physical laws." Sorry for the confusion.

But, I still think the post was self explanatory.

[maggiec]

Originally Posted by K-McD

News Flash

A new poll shows that 62% of all American Catholics want the next pope to relax the Church's position on the natural laws. "Freedom isn't freedom if we are continuously being suppressed by these laws," says Renee Nosalot. The poll shows the majority of Catholic want to be able to live without the restraints of the natural laws. "We need to be able to have the freedom to walk off a building and not have to worry about fall down," protests Albert Needsmore. "I lot of my friends want to walk on water as well. After all, its in the Bible. The Bible says Jesus walked on water and levitated, didn't He?".......blah, blah, blah

Sounds ridiculous? Well, if it doesn't work for the natural laws, it certainly won't work for the moral laws.

Such baloney! The only people that responded to this pole are people who actually want to change the church. If truth be known they are really in the minority. Our church will stand despite the people that are trying to destroy it.
maggiec

[tcay584]

Ya know....maybe the question should have been "How many people want God to relax His laws on......". People are railing at the church, but they're really railing at God. How many people would answer affirmatively if we asked a question like "If God likes you one day, then hates you the next...would you be ok with that?" Because that's what they're saying. We want God to change with the times, we want God to conform to our ideals. What part of "eternal" is not being understood? I keep visualizing...and I wish I could draw comically....God sitting in a little kid's desk in a kindergarten classroom with a bunch of people "explaining" to Him why He's wrong. The irony is unbearable. God made man...then man tries to return the favour. Ha...Ha...Ha.

[Gabriel Gale]

Originally Posted by K-McD

News Flash

A new poll shows that 62% of all American Catholics want the next pope to relax the Church's position on the natural laws.

So. Yea, I want to be King of England.

"Freedom isn't freedom if we are continuously being suppressed by these laws," says Renee Nosalot.

Yea.. that Law of gravity is really oppressive.

The poll shows the majority of Catholic want to be able to live without the restraints of the natural laws.

Now we know what sociopathy feels like.

[St.Catherine]

Originally Posted by K-McD

News Flash

A new poll shows that 62% of all American Catholics want the next pope to relax the Church's position on the natural laws. "Freedom isn't freedom if we are continuously being suppressed by these laws," says Renee Nosalot. The poll shows the majority of Catholic want to be able to live without the restraints of the natural laws. "We need to be able to have the freedom to walk off a building and not have to worry about fall down," protests Albert Needsmore. "I lot of my friends want to walk on water as well. After all, its in the Bible. The Bible says Jesus walked on water and levitated, didn't He?".......blah, blah, blah

Sounds ridiculous? Well, if it doesn't work for the natural laws, it certainly won't work for the moral laws.

[St.Catherine]

I, for one, would like to see some change....I would like them to kick all the liberal cafeteria Catholics and priests who abhor what the Church teaches to be kicked out of the Church until they repent and convert. I am sick and tired of praying for their conversion. I think a little tough love is in order. Harsh...but true.

[mjdonnelly]

The Catholic church has rules that need to be followed, if you don't like it, find a new club or petition God to change things.

Then let us know how it worked out.

[Anna Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by JKirkLVNV

62% of Catholics need to get over themselves.

Anna

[gnjsdad]

Let's hope the next Pope reigns for 50 years, so it'd be a long time before we're subjected again to all the "experts" and disgruntled Catholics clamoring for "change".

[John_19_59]

Puzzleannie wrote...

yeah, you got it
we want nuns in habits back in the classroom and out of the limelight
we want priests to start preaching the Gospel of Jesus instead of the Gospel of hey lookit me ain't I a cute priest up here jammin'
we want lay people to pursue their true vocation, marriage and family instead of hankering for what they can't have
We want a return to the days when no matter where you travelled in the Catholic world, the Mass was the Mass and you always felt at home instead of being a stranger in a strange land

You know I'm sure that Pope John Paul II had the power and authority to address these issues.

But John Paul chose not to - at least not in serious sense.

I have been slightly worried about the adoration poured out these last few days. It appears that the world loved him, in spite - they claim - of his "backward theology", his "views on women", his "anti-homosexual stance", his "pro-life ethics", his "contribution to the death of millions of africans from aids" and other such caviats made by the people who "loved him".

"The world" loved him - but you have to be suspicious of anything that the world loves.

Why all this adoration from non-Catholics? It's very strange especially as most of them would still have no time for Catholicism.

The world admired John Paul because of his undoubted charisma and not because of his catholic teachings, they loved him because sometimes they saw "peace" and universal brotherhood before catholic teaching as at Assisi. They loved him because he didn't make them feel as though they should become Catholics.

In the end what did the Pope do for Catholicism? The Catholic Church is still viewed by the world with suspicion and even disgust - in fact this increased during his pontificate. It's almost as if the Pope was viewed as a great man in spite of his being a Catholic.

God help the next Pope if he's not media-savy. God help him if he doesn't "change" with the times.

The world backlash starts in 9 days time.

I have come to my point of view from being an ardent supporter of Pope John Paul II - albeit one who never really examined anything he taught at the time - after all he was the Pope.

It was painful when it was actually pointed out to me the reality of what he was doing and saying in light of traditional teaching.

God have mercy on him.

God have mercy on the next Pope.



RikasAngel wrote...

I'm from Los Angeles and we have a semi-independent (It's owned by Viacom) Superstation that reported a Gallup Poll which stated that 59% of Catholics Polled wanted a Pope that was Theologically similar to John Paul the Great! Go Figure

Precisely! Most Catholics want "progress".

[jimmy]

Originally Posted by K-McD

News Flash

A new poll shows that 62% of all American Catholics want the next pope to relax the Church's position on the natural laws. "Freedom isn't freedom if we are continuously being suppressed by these laws," says Renee Nosalot. The poll shows the majority of Catholic want to be able to live without the restraints of the natural laws. "We need to be able to have the freedom to walk off a building and not have to worry about fall down," protests Albert Needsmore. "I lot of my friends want to walk on water as well. After all, its in the Bible. The Bible says Jesus walked on water and levitated, didn't He?".......blah, blah, blah

Sounds ridiculous? Well, if it doesn't work for the natural laws, it certainly won't work for the moral laws.

The Church is here to guide them, not the other way around.

[huskerfan]

Originally Posted by tcay584

Ya know....maybe the question should have been "How many people want God to relax His laws on......". People are railing at the church, but they're really railing at God. How many people would answer affirmatively if we asked a question like "If God likes you one day, then hates you the next...would you be ok with that?" Because that's what they're saying. We want God to change with the times, we want God to conform to our ideals. What part of "eternal" is not being understood? I keep visualizing...and I wish I could draw comically....God sitting in a little kid's desk in a kindergarten classroom with a bunch of people "explaining" to Him why He's wrong. The irony is unbearable. God made man...then man tries to return the favour. Ha...Ha...Ha.

I think what you said was perfect!!! Instead of changing the church to fit our needs...how about we change ourselves to fit God? It is too easy to make sin ok as long as you change the rules. I have said this before...what you change on earth can't be changed in heaven. So we have to give up some things, suffer some, go without some, etc... Imagine what gifts God has awaiting us in heaven!!

[jman507]

If I could I would like to send a survey to God.

Would you like to see the people in the US have fewer divorces?

Would you like to see the people in the US respecting their vows more?

Would you like to see fewer people aborting their children?