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Apr 9, '05, 4:55 pm
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very fun game!
under the christian religion, there are three branches. the three being protestant, orthodox, and catholic. Each of the three have basically the same teachings, but yet are in different branches, why? There are SIGNIFICANT differences between the three.
Catholicism's teachings are wrong. one significant difference between the protestant fiath and the catholic faith is that catholicism teaches its believers that heaven is earned, and that salvation is only avaliable through works. if this were the case, salvation would never be granted to us. Going to heaven through works is also found NO WHERE in the bible. a follower of God that lives this way constantly lives in fear of God and damnation to hell. That isnt how God wants us to live.
ALso, confession is no where to be found in the bible. After the great flood, Noah's offsprings built the city of Babylon, a religious center for the world. It was in Babylon that confession was first used as a toold for BLACKMAIL! CONFESSION IS MAN'S INVENTIONS.
Nuns, Monks, and Popes arent dictated by the bible. God explains that a church should be run from pastors, deacons, etc. but never nun, monks, and popes. ALso the dress of nuns, monks and popes were first used to impress the members of the chruch. Why would you need to impress anybody rather than God?
John 3:16 states "for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (NIV) this verse is so commonly known yet holds so much truth. It says that God sent his one and only son to save whoever BELIEVES in him. it didnt say that you had to repeat a given number of "Hail Mary"'s in order to reach salvation. It dictates in the bible that salvation is achieved through acceptance of Jesus CHrist as our Lord and Savior.
...and the list goes on and on
I urge you to come out of such deception and come into the light. Being lost in Deception can and will result in a LOT of damage. God said in romans 3:4 "Let God be true, and every man a liar." Put your faith in God not in priests or the pope who claim to have a direct connection with God. Man will alter the truth, but God will always prevail.
God bless you.
Last edited by dangitsfang; Apr 9, '05 at 5:12 pm.
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Apr 9, '05, 5:14 pm
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Re: very fun game!
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Originally Posted by dangitsfang
under the christian religion, there are three branches. the three being protestant, orthodox, and catholic. Each of the three have basically the same teachings, but yet are in different branches, why? There are SIGNIFICANT differences between the three.
Catholicism's teachings are wrong. one significant difference between the protestant fiath and the catholic faith is that catholicism teaches its believers that heaven is earned, and that salvation is only avaliable through works. if this were the case, salvation would never be granted to us. Going to heaven through works is also found NO WHERE in the bible. a follower of God that lives this way constantly lives in fear of God and damnation to hell. That isnt how God wants us to live.
ALso, confession is no where to be found in the bible. After the great flood, Noah's offsprings built the city of Babylon, a religious center for the world. It was in Babylon that confession was first used as a toold for BLACKMAIL! CONFESSION IS MAN'S INVENTIONS.
Nuns, Monks, and Popes arent dictated by the bible. God explains that a church should be run from pastors, deacons, etc. but never nun, monks, and popes. ALso the dress of nuns, monks and popes were first used to impress the members of the chruch. Why would you need to impress anybody rather than God?
John 3:16 states "for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (NIV) this verse is so commonly known yet holds so much truth. It says that God sent his one and only son to save whoever BELIEVES in him. it didnt say that you had to repeat a given number of "Hail Mary"'s in order to reach salvation. It dictates in the bible that salvation is achieved through acceptance of Jesus CHrist as our Lord and Savior.
...and the list goes on and on
I urge you to come out of such deception and come into the light. Being lost in Deception can and will result in a LOT of damage. God said in romans 3:4 "Let God be true, and every man a liar." Put your faith in God not in priests or the pope who claim to have a direct connection with God. Man will alter the truth, but God will always prevail.
God bless you.
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What in the world is this???????????????
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Apr 9, '05, 5:52 pm
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Re: very fun game!
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What in the world is this???????????????
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It's anti-Catholicism and a pack of lies, and can be debunked by apologetics. Just ignore it.
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Apr 9, '05, 6:35 pm
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Re: very fun game!
 This isn't even a DECENT argument. Anyone that knows anything about Catholicism can refute this entire post.
Wow.
Sigh.....I shouldn't feed the trolls, but I couldn't help this one.
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Apr 9, '05, 6:54 pm
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Re: very fun game!
Oooo, oooo, I wanna play, please please please....wait  , I'm confuzzled
Eamon
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Apr 9, '05, 7:29 pm
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Re: very fun game!
"catholicism teaches its believers that heaven is earned, and that salvation is only avaliable through works"
No, it doesn't. Salvation is the free gift of God. "Works" are the fruit of salvation, not the root. We do "works" because we are already saved, not because we hope to be saved through them.
"a follower of God that lives this way constantly lives in fear of God and damnation to hell."
Not that I've noticed.
"ALso, confession is no where to be found in the bible."
And Catholicism is not the Sola Scriptura denomination. Besides, it is there: the power to bind and loose given to the Apostles.
"It was in Babylon that confession was first used as a toold for BLACKMAIL! CONFESSION IS MAN'S INVENTIONS."
As to Barylon: got any evidence for that? As to it being "mans invention": well, Christ the Lord is also a man.
"Nuns, Monks, and Popes arent dictated by the bible"
Aand we're not the Sola Scriptura denomination...
In any case, Christ instituted the Papacy when He said to Simon the Apostle, "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I shall build My Church."
......I could go on, but I'm bored now. May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you and bring you peace.
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Apr 9, '05, 7:38 pm
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Re: very fun game!
What does God say about proper writing skills?
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Apr 9, '05, 7:42 pm
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Re: very fun game!
Dear Heavenly Father,
Please open the eyes and heart of this poor misguided person. Please help him to see the error of his beliefs and please help him to recognize the beauty and truth of your Church.
In the name of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
Amen.
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Apr 9, '05, 11:40 pm
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Re: very fun game!
Do you think he had fun playing that old game?
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Apr 10, '05, 6:35 am
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Re: very fun game!
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Do you think he had fun playing that old game?
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He has been suspended.....
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Apr 10, '05, 8:04 am
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Re: very fun game!
Okay, I'll take this a bit farther.
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...Nuns, Monks, and Popes arent dictated by the bible. God explains that a church should be run from pastors, deacons, etc. but never nun, monks, and popes...
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I would ask this writer to explain what he or she means. Does this writer mean that God (in the Bible) never explains that the Church "should be run from... nun[sic], monks, and popes"? or dooes this writer mean that God (in the Bible) does explain that the Church "should be run from... never nun[sic], monks, and popes"? (emphasis mine.)
If this writer means the latter, I'll call. Please show your sources for this negative prononcement.
If this writer means the former, this writer is technically correct that those particular titles are not typically used in that context in the New Testament, at least not those versions of the new Testament with which I am most familiar. This writer's argument is built on a faulty premise, however. Nuns and monks do not run the Church. Those are vocations by which women and men serve God in the Church, just as others serve as married laity, single laity or clergy.
The word pope does not appear in the Bible in the context of Church leadership because that particular title may not have been used in reference to St. Peter and his successors at the time the New Testament writings were authored. Apostolic authority within the Church is clearly referenced in the bible, though, as is Peter's authority over the other Apostles, and as is the authority of the Apostles to appoint others to Apostolic office as colaborators and successors. The title pope, whether or not it was used in the first century, refers to St. Peter and those men who have succeeded him in his office.
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...ALso[sic] the dress of nuns, monks and popes were first used to impress the members of the chruch. Why would you need to impress anybody rather than God?...
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No, the habits or vestments of religious or clergy are based on the sorts of clothing people normally wore at the time those habits or vestments came into use, The Church simply does not change clothing styles to keep up with fashion trends as much of the rest of the world tends to. In the case of many religious orders, their habit is based on the sorts of clothing worn by the very poorest in those times and places when those habits first came into use. A good example from our lifetime is the simple cotton sari worn by poor women in India and by women in the Missionaries of Charity for that reason. I am curious as to why this writer might think anybody should be impressed by this.
The more ornate vestments worn by popes, bishops or priests when celebrating mass or for other formal occasions are indeed more ornate and may even be impressive, just as can any piece of great artwork. But as with other works of sacred art their purpose is to glorify God, not impress people. There is a scriptural precedent for these in the distinctive vestments worn by the Aaronic priests, including the jeweled ephod.
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Originally Posted by dangitsfang
...John 3:16 states "for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (NIV) this verse is so commonly known yet holds so much truth. It says that God sent his one and only son to save whoever BELIEVES in him. it didnt say that you had to repeat a given number of "Hail Mary"'s[sic] in order to reach salvation...
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I do not see why the writer considers this this an argument against Catholicism, as he is here stating the Catholic position: The Church does not teach that one must pray any minimum number of Hail Marys to bve saved.
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...I urge you to come out of such deception and come into the light. Being lost in Deception can and will result in a LOT of damage...
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I fully agree, and I urge this writer to take his own advice.
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...God bless you.
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God bless you too.
JB
Last edited by Joseph Bilodeau; Apr 10, '05 at 8:12 am.
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Apr 10, '05, 8:15 am
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What does God say about proper writing skills?
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Apr 10, '05, 8:32 am
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Re: very fun game!
fun? game? i don't get it
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Apr 10, '05, 8:34 am
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Re: very fun game!
I don't know about you guys, but my priest is always blackmailing me  ...oh wait...no he doesn't.
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Apr 10, '05, 9:19 am
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Re: very fun game!
Ok before you waste all you fury insulting the Catholic church, why don't you find out what it actually teaches instead of repeating what some else has told you that it teaches? For example you could never show me that "Catholicism teaches its believers that heaven is earned, and that salvation is only avaliable through works" anywhere in the Catechism of the Catholic Church because it does not nor has it ever taught that.
If you want people to take you seriously you at least have to have your facts straight. If you want to have a reasonable exchange of concerns you have with the church you at least have to know the true teachings of the church instead of just spewing hatred for something you don't understand.
If you are insulted for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you.
1 Peter 4:14
You will be hated by all because of my name. But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.
Mark 13:13
Blessed are you when people hate you,
and when they exclude and insult you,
and denounce your name as evil
on account of the Son of Man.
Luke 6:22
Consider praying to Holy Spirit to guide you in Truth always. May God unharden you heart. God be with you.
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