Is being in the military a sin?

coolcatholicguy · #1 Oct 6, '10, 6:55 pm

Is it?

markomalley · #2 Oct 6, '10, 7:04 pm

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Originally Posted by coolcatholicguy

Is it?

You're kidding, right?

From the CCC:

1909 Finally, the common good requires peace, that is, the stability and security of a just order. It presupposes that authority should ensure by morally acceptable means the security of society and its members. It is the basis of the right to legitimate personal and collective defence.

2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life. Preserving the common good requires rendering the unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. To this end, those holding legitimate authority have the right to repel by armed force aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their charge.

Honestly, that sounds like questions my 7th grade CCD would ask...Is ___ a sin? Is ___ a sin?

quasimodo · #3 Oct 6, '10, 7:07 pm

if it were then Jesus would have told the soldier to get out instead of be content with your wages

BlueShadow123 · #4 Oct 6, '10, 8:03 pm

No, you are in the military to protect others and keep your freedom.

JackVk · #5 Oct 6, '10, 8:12 pm

According to that idiot Fred Phelps, it is. Key word "idiot".

BlueShadow123 · #6 Oct 6, '10, 8:19 pm

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Originally Posted by JackVk

According to that idiot Fred Phelps, it is. Key word "idiot".

Lol. I really do wonder where they are going after they die.

RHC · #7 Oct 6, '10, 8:26 pm

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Originally Posted by JackVk

According to that idiot Fred Phelps, it is. Key word "idiot".

LOL. Of course, according to him, we're all in serious trouble anyway - he's not overly keen on Catholics, either.

I'm praying for the grace to pray for them because I don't feel particularly charitable about that particular "church."

BlueShadow123 · #8 Oct 6, '10, 8:40 pm

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Originally Posted by RHC

LOL. Of course, according to him, we're all in serious trouble anyway - he's not overly keen on Catholics, either.

I'm praying for the grace to pray for them because I don't feel particularly charitable about that particular "church."

What about the young children born into that church? They are brainwashed into believing that what phelps says is 'right'. I feel bad for them the most.

Also too, im not so sure fred phelps is an 'idiot', I just think he has SERIOUS mental issues that he obviously can't seem to control. Was he born into that thinking? Were his parents like that? If you are raised and have something shoved down your throat 24/7 you will eventually end up thinking its true above all.

KShaft · #9 Oct 6, '10, 8:41 pm

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Originally Posted by markomalley

You're kidding, right?

From the CCC:

1909 Finally, the common good requires peace, that is, the stability and security of a just order. It presupposes that authority should ensure by morally acceptable means the security of society and its members. It is the basis of the right to legitimate personal and collective defence.

2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life. Preserving the common good requires rendering the unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. To this end, those holding legitimate authority have the right to repel by armed force aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their charge.

Honestly, that sounds like questions my 7th grade CCD would ask...Is ___ a sin? Is ___ a sin?

As a Marine Corps, Army, and OIF vet, I like this answer the best.

Adeodatus · #10 Oct 6, '10, 8:50 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by markomalley

You're kidding, right?

From the CCC:

1909 Finally, the common good requires peace, that is, the stability and security of a just order. It presupposes that authority should ensure by morally acceptable means the security of society and its members. It is the basis of the right to legitimate personal and collective defence.

2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life. Preserving the common good requires rendering the unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. To this end, those holding legitimate authority have the right to repel by armed force aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their charge.

Honestly, that sounds like questions my 7th grade CCD would ask...Is ___ a sin? Is ___ a sin?

It's not an unreasonable question. You provided a good answer.

Victorious · #11 Oct 6, '10, 8:58 pm

If it is a sin, then every military chaplain is in deep trouble. By the way, of the four chaplains who won the Congressional Medal of Honor since WWII, every single one was a Catholic priest. Here is some information on some heroic priests in combat boots.

And then there are quite a few soldier saints, or saints who led soldiers into battle, including:

St. Joan of Arc
St. Louis IX
St. Maurice
St. John of Capistrano
St. Lawrence of Brindisi (who, incidentally, is a Doctor of the Church)

And I'm sure others could come up with more soldier saints.

mfairfax · #12 Oct 6, '10, 9:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Victorious

If it is a sin, then every military chaplain is in deep trouble. By the way, of the four chaplains who won the Congressional Medal of Honor since WWII, every single one was a Catholic priest. Here is some information on some heroic priests in combat boots.

And then there are quite a few soldier saints, or saints who led soldiers into battle, including:

St. Joan of Arc
St. Louis IX
St. Maurice
St. John of Capistrano
St. Lawrence of Brindisi (who, incidentally, is a Doctor of the Church)

And I'm sure others could come up with more soldier saints.

St. Ignatius of Loyola?

RHC · #13 Oct 6, '10, 10:13 pm

Thank you, BlueShadow. Sometimes my emotions run away with my head. I have known a few good soldiers whose funerals were protested by the Westboro church. So perhaps I am a bit emotional about them...

However, as you pointed out, I will think about the children and pray that, somehow, they will escape the hateful attitude of that group. I feel sorry for them. And, in my more rational moments, I feel sorry for Fred Phelps. I think he is very deceived.

Am off to say a few Hail Marys and Our Fathers....thanks for getting my head back on straight.

thistle · #14 Oct 6, '10, 10:53 pm

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Originally Posted by coolcatholicguy

Is it?

Why have you opened dozens of threads asking if something is a sin?
Not a single thing you have brought up in your threads is a sin.
If you are so scrupulous please go to a priest or at least have the courtesy to read The Catechism of the Catholic Church, before coming here, which has answers for your questions.

Orleans Attny · #15 Oct 7, '10, 4:56 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by markomalley

You're kidding, right?

From the CCC:

1909 Finally, the common good requires peace, that is, the stability and security of a just order. It presupposes that authority should ensure by morally acceptable means the security of society and its members. It is the basis of the right to legitimate personal and collective defence.

2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life. Preserving the common good requires rendering the unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. To this end, those holding legitimate authority have the right to repel by armed force aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their charge.

Honestly, that sounds like questions my 7th grade CCD would ask...Is ___ a sin? Is ___ a sin?

Great Answer!

Pax,
Active Navy, Afghanistan Veteran
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