Name Benedict fulfillment of Malachy prophesy?

[dcmac]

Give me a break!! I am ROFL.

These are terrible stretches to make HH Pope Benedict XVI fit into the "Malachy Prophecies." Good grief Charlie Brown.

It always amazes me how many "Christians" ignore the Christ’s own words and fall for such doom and gloom prophecies. How can a serious Catholic believe in a/any "prophecy" that directly contradicts the Lord Himself? I am reminded of the song which exhorts the lamentable fact that it is simply unbelievable how many "believers" have no belief at all. Good grief… people will ‘fall for anything when they stand for nothing’…

Do not get caught up in such nonsense! Have faith!! Faith in Jesus and His Church and not in the fabrications of man… for down that path is certain destruction.

As an aside note, one more place in which the article provided by dumspirospero is clearly wrong is that WWIII has already occurred. Wars, as anyone who has studied the art of war and combat can tell you, are hot or cold or a combination of both. WWI and WWII were both "hot" wars. WWIII was a "cold" war. That war was the longer of the three precisely because it was a "cold" war; and make no mistake about it… it was a very real war between multiple players. That would leave us with WWIV, not WWIII.

[Lisa4Catholics]

Look at his St. Benedict had a prophecy on this too



http://www.spiritdaily.com/ratzinger1.htm

[BenRosa]

Originally Posted by Edwin1961

I am in fear within me at this time. That tells me that I have issues to still work out. I have no peace...My soul is deeply troubled.


John Paul, the Great...'be not afraid.' I pray for courage.

Stay focused on Heaven and the task at hand to get there...

[K C]

Originally Posted by Maurelian

That's what I was wondering about the quote I posted above...is it just their opinion, or generally accepted as fact that the prophecies were a 16th century joke?

Far from it! While the Church has not OFFICIALLY PROCLAIMED the prophecies to be true (how could this be done without striking terror into the hearts of the people of our time...something Christ does not want?), there has been no proof that the prophecies are forgeries.

In the introduction to "The Prophecies of St. Malachy", Peter Bander discusses at length the various objections to the veracity of the prophecies - effectively dismantling them.

There is a wide range of opinions on this subject, but I think that the fact that these predicitions are said to have originated from an Irish SAINT is strong reason in itself for acceptance. Why would God allow one of his saints to be so defamed by forgery for so long? But, finally, the fact that the prophecies ACCURATELY align with actual descriptions of all the popes until this time is the strongest reason of all for us to take them into serious consideration...if not for our outright acceptance.

Again, I recommend the above book to anyone hoping to gain insight into this subject.

[TPJCatholic]

dcmac,


What Words from Christ are you speaking of?

[K C]

Originally Posted by dcmac

It always amazes me how many "Christians" ignore the Christ’s own words and fall for such doom and gloom prophecies. How can a serious Catholic believe in a/any "prophecy" that directly contradicts the Lord Himself?

These prophecies IN NO WAY contradict Our Lord. In fact, Jesus Himself told us about the "end times" and His return. Also, see the Apocalypse!

Good grief… people will ‘fall for anything when they stand for nothing’…

I think this is an offense to all those who take St. Malachy seriously. How can you state that good Catholics who believe in prophesy "stand for nothing"?

Do not get caught up in such nonsense! Have faith!! Faith in Jesus and His Church and not in the fabrications of man… for down that path is certain destruction.

You ASSUME that this is a fabrication of man. (And you know what happens when one assumes...he makes an *** of U and ME!)

As an aside note, one more place in which the article provided by dumspirospero is clearly wrong is that WWIII has already occurred. Wars, as anyone who has studied the art of war and combat can tell you, are hot or cold or a combination of both. WWI and WWII were both "hot" wars. WWIII was a "cold" war. That war was the longer of the three precisely because it was a "cold" war; and make no mistake about it… it was a very real war between multiple players. That would leave us with WWIV, not WWIII.

This is an interesting observation. However, in the BIBLICAL SENSE, war is defined by bloodbaths. The "cold war" would, in this light, be viewed as political posturing...despite the very real anxieties and fears it generated among us.

[Jennifer123]

Just my 2 cents but I found the articles on the catholic planet site to be very interesting. Yes, we don't know the day or the hour and speculation shouldn't rob us of our peace in Christ - that would be of the evil one indeed.
However, we should remember Matthew 25 in which we are told to stand ready and to be aware for the time will come like a thief in the night, and that like in the days of Noah, our Lord will return. We do not want to be caught by suprise. That's why He tells us to look for the signs. I do think there are signs aplenty!! Maybe it won't happen in my lifetime, but 100 years to God is like a second. I certainly am not going to refute our Lord's advice.

The catholic planet articles are one man's interpretation based on his perceived promptings of the Holy Spirit, other approved apparitions and prophesy, and he is loyal to the Magisterium. He himself ackowledges they may be wrong, but I would recommend that his writings be read THOROUGHLY before stating he's off his rocker......

[TPJCatholic]

It seems pretty clear that the name "Benedict" fulfills the prophecy for this Pope in the list. Saint Benedict began the Benedictine rule/order and one of the many titles of the Benedictines was the "olivetans," so it seems that at least in the name our new Pope has fulfilled Saint Malachy's prophecy.

Saint Malachy's prophecy stated this Pope would be "“De Gloria Olivae,” which means "Glory of the Olive." Nowhere does the prophecy state that the Pope must be from the Benedictine Order.
If the prophecy holds true, then Pope Benedictine XVI will do much work to convert the Jews.

It is certainly very interesting stuff.

[jurist12]

Benedict XVI-Glory of the Olive?

St. Malachy prophesied that the Pope before the last one would be "Glory of the Olive" Some have said that this name shows that Pope would come from the Benedictine Order. But not necessarily, it could mean that the name that Pope takes would be one that entails what the Benedictines stand for. Benedictines are also some say associated with "Olivetan" which they say is an allusion to them as well. Cardinal Ratzinger, after taking the name Benedict XVI spoke to the crowds and stated "I am a simple humble worker in the Lord's Vinyard" also Joseph Ratzinger is a humble yet serious scholar with an admirable record of being. a Professor of Theology and Doctrine. The Rule of St. Benedict "work, study, prayer" as the Benedictine ideal is one which Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger perfectly entails. Just some rambling thoughts. In Christ, jurist12

[Ani Ibi]

Scary stuff. Much war and persecution to come. But ultimate victory.

[batteddy]

"Is there anyway to tell when this web site was posted? I mean to say could it be something written and posted with just the name Benedict XVI added in."

No...I read that website a year or two ago. I thought that it was a crackpot...and when he chose Benedict XVI...I was a little freaked out.

I still don't necessarily believe all this End Times stuff...but trust me, Benedict has been a heavily predicted name for years because of the Malachy prophesies...

[pnewton]

Each may have their own reason for believing we now know the date the world will end. Here is a good reason not to go on about it, at least here. From the forum rules:

"Do not post material from unapproved private revelations."

[Jennifer123]

Originally Posted by pnewton

Each may have their own reason for believing we now know the date the world will end. Here is a good reason not to go on about it, at least here. From the forum rules:

"Do not post material from unapproved private revelations."

Possibly splitting hairs, but if I remember right, these aren't private revelations, the author doesn't claim that they are inspired at all, they are just his thoughts on scripture and other approved prophesies, etc. In fact, I think he distinctly says he has received no revelation whatsoever. The author does claim to be loyal to the Church and the Magisterium and the other articles don't seem to contradict that, at least to my knowledge.
As for the Malachy prohesies - I've read in this thread that they've been approved?

[MadMan]

Maybe I'm missing something, but John Paul II was the 100th pope since Malachy, not 110th.

I thought the claim that John Paul I and John Paul II fit the prophecies for the 109th and 110th popes "to a tee" demonstrated an incredible lack of cranial activity. You could think of reasons for anybody to fit such sloppy and meaningless descriptions.

God Bless Benedict XVI!!!

John Paul II pray for us

[Tamelyne]

Originally Posted by CatholicHoser

I also read the article. The writer claims to know the exact year that Christ comes again (2437 A.D.) .

Well, if Pope Benedict XVI is second to last in line, he and/or his successor will have to live an awfully long time to make that date! LOL!