What do you Fore-See For this Pontificate?

TNT · #1 Apr 19, '05, 2:13 pm

1. There is an interesting point to be made on his choice of Title
He goes back to a Pre-Vatican II Title. He does not continue with Paul VII or JP III or John XXIV. But at least back to 1920's or maybe far before that. It will be difficult to pick which Benedict he is trying to emulate. It may NOT be the XVth.
Questions:
1. Will he be a prolific writer as JPII or more of a behind-the-scenses doer.?
2. Will he quietly replace many positions without a lot of fan-fare? And by so doing, send his intended message by act and not so much by written pleadings.
3. Will he quietly cleanup the seminaries and renegade Bishoprics?

Personally, I see him as a "quiet executioner" where several bold moves will send the message of His intent to the remaining that may still be salvageable.

4. Europe will receive a great amount of attention in rebuilding a viable Church from the ashes. Wherein America / Australia will "get the message".

5. Re-stress the virtue of obedience vs JPII's more "suggestive" or indirect even benign approach to dissidents.

6. Close out the Homosexual stranglehold on the Western Episcpate.

7. Stop the further destruction of landmark Churches by NOT approving "moderniztions" that obliterate their Catholicity.

8. VAT II wil be important, but not the be-all end-all as in JPII. More references will be made to former Councils and Popes in his writings.Thus revealing a rise in orthodoxy over "aggiornamento"

9. A potent effort to bring the SSPX back into the Church by removing ambiguities that concern the SSPX . Turning them into Allies for the spreading of TLM styled Masses in the NOM.
(Latin, high-masses, kneeling, etc.)

10. A much wider offering of the TLM by edict more than suggestion. Hence, part of the dimise of "unlimited collegiality".

11. He will test how deep the Traditional strain of Catholicism still flows in the Church. He knows that is where the stongest loyalty to Mother Church lies...Trads. and conservatives.

That's my take.
But, I long to know WHICH Benedict will be his mentor!

PopePeterII · #2 Apr 19, '05, 2:19 pm

Ben16 is a bavarian German. I'm a Bavarian German, and we do not take kindly to rampaging thoughts of liberalism that suggest not only changing how the church works but changeing the church to some unreconizable form. this is not what he wants to happen. Jp was a very good pope and through his wanning years he cold not completly rest the strong homosexual cases or marriage cases. And If I know aGerman, He will send his pontificate wrath on those who do not obey peter's and christs church. Think of him as the gaurd dog of christ. normally warm and fuzzy but defends his master like a hobo on a ham sandwhich.

TNT · #3 Apr 19, '05, 2:28 pm

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Ben16 is a bavarian German. I'm a Bavarian German, and we do not take kindly to rampaging thoughts of liberalism that suggest not only changing how the church works but changeing the church to some unreconizable form. this is not what he wants to happen. Jp was a very good pope and through his wanning years he cold not completly rest the strong homosexual cases or marriage cases. And If I know aGerman, He will send his pontificate wrath on those who do not obey peter's and christs church. Think of him as the gaurd dog of christ. normally warm and fuzzy but defends his master like a hobo on a ham sandwhich.

Oh, yea. I forgot. He shows lots of teeth when he is smiling...err growling. so that you can't tell for sure which he intends.

mtr01 · #4 Apr 19, '05, 2:31 pm

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Think of him as the gaurd dog of christ. normally warm and fuzzy but defends his master like a hobo on a ham sandwhich.

The German Shepherd of Christ's flock?

icequeen · #5 Apr 19, '05, 2:31 pm

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Ben16 is a bavarian German. I'm a Bavarian German, and we do not take kindly to rampaging thoughts of liberalism that suggest not only changing how the church works but changeing the church to some unreconizable form. this is not what he wants to happen. Jp was a very good pope and through his wanning years he cold not completly rest the strong homosexual cases or marriage cases. And If I know aGerman, He will send his pontificate wrath on those who do not obey peter's and christs church. Think of him as the gaurd dog of christ. normally warm and fuzzy but defends his master like a hobo on a ham sandwhich.

Being a Rhineland German myself (though a little bit removed), I second that! I am expecting a bit of that German stubbornness to show up soon. I think this is going to be fun to watch a few people squirm.

dumspirospero · #6 Apr 19, '05, 2:35 pm

I see him putting the "smackdown" on heresy...I also predict him restoring some of the traditional elements of The Church. I also see him continuing JPII's ecumenism. I believe he will be everything THe Church needs.

John_19_59 · #7 Apr 19, '05, 2:36 pm

What do you Fore-See For this Pontificate?

I see the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

It's already started.

Cardinal Kasper was interviewed this evening on BBC News, he said Pope Benedict had said to him after the conclave "now we walk the road of ecumenical unity together".

I fore-see theological juggling to bring the Catholic Church closer to protestantism (as with the Augsberg pact).

Pray very much for the Holy Father.

I fore-see stormy weather and perhaps persecution for some.

TNT · #8 Apr 19, '05, 2:43 pm

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The German Shepherd of Christ's flock?

Benedict XVI

TNT · #9 Apr 19, '05, 2:45 pm

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Originally Posted by John_19_59

What do you Fore-See For this Pontificate?

I see the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

It's already started.

Cardinal Kasper was interviewed this evening on BBC News, he said Pope Benedict had said to him after the conclave "now we walk the road of ecumenical unity together".

I fore-see theological juggling to bring the Catholic Church closer to protestantism (as with the Augsberg pact).

If they get much closer we won't be able to tell them apart. Or, is that the idea?

**Ani Ibi** · #10 Apr 19, '05, 2:51 pm

Europe will be evangelized.

John_19_59 · #11 Apr 19, '05, 2:59 pm

I fore-see Luther being un-excommunicated. (Seriously)

RSiscoe · #12 Apr 19, '05, 4:16 pm

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I fore-see Luther being un-excommunicated. (Seriously)

Maybe I am too optomistic, but I am trying to set aside some of the strange things Fr. Ratzinger said in the past, and praying that he does a good job. I think we need to at least give him a chance.

I pray that what Kasper said is not true. But if it is: what is one more time of being let down? I am used to it by now.

mtr01 · #13 Apr 19, '05, 4:21 pm

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I pray that what Kasper said is not true. But if it is: what is one more time of being let down? I am used to it by now.

Couldn't find any interview on the BBC to confirm.

m134e5 · #14 Apr 19, '05, 5:54 pm

He will make the heretics (i.e. those who obstinately reject a known truth of the faith) squirm like bugs under a magnifying glass. May the Lord always protect and guide him.

VIVE BENEDICTUS XVI!

Habemus Papam!!! Deo Gratias!!!

snowman10 · #15 Apr 19, '05, 6:09 pm

Personally, as a proud German, I would like to see the German Shepard clean house. If you don't like what the Church teaches (heterodoxals), like it or leave it. Maintain an attitude of seperated bretheren, but work at evangalizing them and bringing them home. Clean up the seminaries and get rid of the Priests that are not acting as they should. Maintain a dialouge with Islam, but do not compromise OUR position. Increase aid to the poor and the downtrodden. Keep fighting abortion and increase the protest against captial punishment. Do what real progressives do, better society without compromising the truth.

DU