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View Poll Results: Is the election of Ratzinger helping fufill the St. Malachy prophecy?
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Yes, I believe in the prophecy.
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Yes, though I am skeptical
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It is coincidence.
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No, I do not believe the prophecy.
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Does not matter, only God knows.
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Apr 19, '05, 5:25 pm
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Prophecy
Do you believe that this part of the St. Malachy prophecy?
If so, please explain why.
DU
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Apr 19, '05, 5:40 pm
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Re: Prophecy
I am highly skeptical. There are good reaons to believe that the "prophecy" is spurious.
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Apr 19, '05, 5:42 pm
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Re: Prophecy
I am not going to worry. Nothing I can do about it.
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Apr 19, '05, 5:43 pm
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Re: Prophecy
I believe the prophecy,however I would not be shattered if the rest didn't pan out because prophecy's can be mitigated and in addition to that the end will come sooner or later whether the prophecy predicts it or not
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Apr 19, '05, 6:16 pm
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Re: Prophecy
There never was and never will be any such thing as coincidence. It is all God's will.
We may not always see the hand of God in every little thing, but that does not mean He is not there at that particular moment. Just because WE cant see it is not a factor.
Everyone has choices and freedom of choice. You may believe what you wish, but as for me, I do not believe in coincidence.
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Apr 19, '05, 6:18 pm
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Re: Prophecy
Only God knows, that is true. regarding fatima, only God and Sr. Lucy knew until she revealed the knowledge to the Pope. Maybe in this case, God and St. Malachy knew. I find it hard to dismiss Malachy out of hand because I fist heard about him from the good nuns when I was in grammar school, way back when they wore habits and were in numbers large enough to staff a whole school system.
if malachy is wrong, or if the prophecies turn oit to be really fraudulent, it won't affect my faith at all, but I'm paying careful attention...
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Apr 19, '05, 6:42 pm
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Re: Prophecy
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Originally Posted by snowman10
Do you believe that this part of the St. Malachy prophecy?
If so, please explain why.
DU
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## No - because any text, prophecy or otherwise, can be given a meaning to fit with how events have in fact turned out. There is always a way out of an interpretation - viz., another interpretation.
So even if the election of X had been prophesied, and Y had been elected, that could always be accounted for  - by saying that people had not prayed enough, or were not good enough, or that the prophecy was conditional, or already fulfilled, or had been misunderstood. There is no prophecy so unambiguous, that its not being fulfilled in the terms stated in the original prophecy cannot somehow be justified.
In addition to which, there is the problem of how one can foretell the actions of those who are free agents; especially if one lives by a religion that maintains the reality both of prophecy, and of the human ability to choose a course of action freely. ##
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Apr 19, '05, 7:23 pm
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Re: Prophecy
In my opinion, the Malachy Prophecy is pure garbage that is being used by the end-time crowd to pull in Catholics to their delusion.
PF
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Apr 19, '05, 7:24 pm
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Re: Prophecy
Wander,
It is not garbage if it entices even one person to repent.
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Apr 19, '05, 7:25 pm
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Re: Prophecy
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Originally Posted by WanderAimlessly
In my opinion, the Malachy Prophecy is pure garbage that is being used by the end-time crowd to pull in Catholics to their delusion.
PF
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Sure does smell like that to me.
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Apr 19, '05, 8:37 pm
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Re: Prophecy
While the prophecy is interesting, no doubt, I remain highly skeptical. In truth, only God knows. I will not hold to the prophecy as it is just too questionable. Too ambiguous.
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Apr 19, '05, 11:09 pm
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Re: Prophecy
 Is he FROM the Benedictines? Why the "Gloria Olivae", though? Do we know this yet?
The prophecy about this one is:
Gloria olivć
The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order.
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Apr 20, '05, 6:18 am
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Re: Prophecy
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Originally Posted by adstrinity
The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order.
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This is quoted over and over and over again yesterday, but where does it come from? I have never, ever heard of this olive=Benedictine thing before yesterday (and frankly, it doesn't make logical sense).
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Apr 20, '05, 7:59 am
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Re: Prophecy
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Originally Posted by adstrinity
Is he FROM the Benedictines? Why the "Gloria Olivae", though? Do we know this yet?
The prophecy about this one is:
Gloria olivć
The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order. |
Pope Benedict XVI is not from the Order of Benedictines. However, the Benedictine order is also know as " Olivetans".
Pope Benedict XVI also chose "Pax" or peace as his papal motto. One of the symbols for peace is an olive branch.
I don't know...does this all fit the Glory of the Olives? One of the reasons for my skepticism is that you can "find" lots of different things to fit the meaning of Malachy's motto.
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Apr 20, '05, 8:37 am
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Re: Prophecy
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Originally Posted by gilliam
This is quoted over and over and over again yesterday, but where does it come from? I have never, ever heard of this olive=Benedictine thing before yesterday (and frankly, it doesn't make logical sense).
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http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon85.htm
The jury's still out for me though. I'm not sure what I believe yet.. All I know is that God is in charge and nothing is done without his approval.
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