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Old Dec 11, '11, 3:40 pm
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Smile Re: shopping online on Sunday?

I'm 68 and lived in Ohio. They had "blue laws" then in the 50's and I remember our priests encouraging us NOT not to be shopping on Sunday, primarily because of employees having to work that day. I think that some cities still do have these, and only within the past 30 years has this changed.

However I remember my mom running out of milk or some essentials and sometimes going for miles to be able to buy it.

Then the tide turned the opposite way, and now nearly every store is open on Sunday, although there are exceptions. I believe that if you run out of an essential, there's no reason you can't stop even at a 7/11 store and buy say milk or bread.

I try not to shop on Sunday, but I do know a lot of people that do, because in our area, Salt Lake City, the Mormons are forbidden to shop then, so many of the stores are very crowded and traffic is bad. It's easier if you're not working or retired as you can do these things during the week.

So, I think what the Church would like is to make Sunday a "day of rest" if you can. Attend Mass and visit with people if you can, or just relax with your family. I also think that on-line shopping is okay on Sunday, unless you're doing it for hours and hours
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Old Dec 11, '11, 4:31 pm
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The way I see it - shopping either online or in a store physically - is purchasing on Sunday. Online shopping is available to us 24 hrs. a day, so why not wait until after midnight? I try VERY hard not to buy on Sunday, and when I do, I feel guilty - I'm committing a sin (unless it were a medical necessity) - by the exchange of money or encouraging people to be working on Sunday. Ironically, getting the Sunday paper - in a store or delivered - presents similar problem. ???

To me, shopping online is the same as in-store. It's buying - Just a different location.
For that matter, the same applies to a day out on Sunday for recreation, restaurants, etc. purchasing is required. Very difficult coming to terms with conscience / God's Laws.
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Old Dec 12, '11, 6:19 am
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Presumably no business is done while Mass is being said.
Not sure why you would presume that. Yes, there is business being conducted while Mass is being said.It might be sales. If not, we are unpacking boxes of product. Or maybe counting out the deposit. There is no difference in what we do, other than we have fewer customers.
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I also work at a Church (and so does your priest) and Church work requires at least a small number of hours to be worked on Sundays - it is unavoidable. But all business stops and the Office door is locked when Mass is in progress.
While Mass is going on the store is open in conducting business. The secretary just might be in her office, working. There are a number of employees working at various jobs.

We certainly don't stop all business and lock the doors.
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Old Dec 12, '11, 7:03 am
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The way I see it - shopping either online or in a store physically - is purchasing on Sunday. Online shopping is available to us 24 hrs. a day, so why not wait until after midnight? I try VERY hard not to buy on Sunday, and when I do, I feel guilty - I'm committing a sin (unless it were a medical necessity) - by the exchange of money or encouraging people to be working on Sunday. Ironically, getting the Sunday paper - in a store or delivered - presents similar problem. ???

To me, shopping online is the same as in-store. It's buying - Just a different location.
For that matter, the same applies to a day out on Sunday for recreation, restaurants, etc. purchasing is required. Very difficult coming to terms with conscience / God's Laws.
Would that apply to going online and buying a book for a nun or priest on a Sunday? Because that's what I did. I think it depends on the circumstances, and I doubt that God would hold that against me. And, I'm a senior---very hard to stay up until 10 let alone after midnight!
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Old Dec 12, '11, 10:04 am
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The Orthodox Jew run BHPhotovideo.com site and NY store, does not take orders over the Jewish Sabbath. One can still browse it but it won't let you check an order out.
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Presumably no business is done while Mass is being said.
I don't see a problem with a bookstore in a totally separate building being open during Mass. What about all those folks who went to the 9:30am Mass, lingered around with friends having coffee and donuts afterward, then strolled into the bookstore after 12Noon when the next Mass has started. They supposed to leave while the doors are locked for an hour and a half? That makes no sense.

Our parish bookstore is open after every Mass, and I believe there is overlap between the two Masses on Sunday. Trust me - no one is missing Mass because this, and no one is being put in peril of sin by selling holy cards and plastic rosaries to the little old ladies on a Sunday morning.

On the contrary - the income from the bookstore helps our parish survive. And why would we close on the day when EVERYONE is there? That is called cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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Old Dec 12, '11, 11:00 am
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I have note listened to it yet..but this is from Jimmy Akin of CA

http://www.jimmyakin.org/2011/12/sun...on-sunday.html

Also read

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/be...christian_life
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Old Dec 12, '11, 12:07 pm
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I actually think that online shopping is far more moral and ethical on Sunday's than in person shopping. (Same with holidays). That way you aren't contributing to the demand for workers on those days.
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Old Dec 12, '11, 5:30 pm
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Jews are certainly bound by the fourth commandment; they observe it from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.
I hope you noticed I said they could work on SUNDAY right?
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Old Dec 12, '11, 5:43 pm
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I think I posted earlier but - While it's a convenience for the sake of staples (like milk, etc.), I try very hard not to work or buy on Sunday. But how does one reconcile buying or not buying the SUNDAY paper? Are we justifying too much for convenience sake and compromising our Catholic values?
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Old Dec 12, '11, 8:56 pm
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Truly, I've never heard of NOT shopping on
Sundays until I read this thread.

Is this for real???
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Old Dec 12, '11, 9:02 pm
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Truly, I've never heard of NOT shopping on
Sundays until I read this thread.

Is this for real???
That was my question.

For crying out loud, I work for a Catholic Church and I work on Sunday, during a scheduled Mass time!!
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Old Dec 12, '11, 9:10 pm
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That was my question.

For crying out loud, I work for a Catholic Church and I work on Sunday, during a scheduled Mass time!!
So you're from the South and I grew up in Chicago -
now living in California - and this is all news to us?

Remarkable.
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Old Jan 28, '12, 10:35 am
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I think it all really comes down to whether or not you treat Sunday like any old day or like a Sunday. Sundays are a time of rest and a time for Church. I feel like it is a very "renewing" day and I like to do some laundry and cleaning on Sundays. It isn't that I am trying to "work". Somehow I do get some actual relaxation from doing these things and focusing on keeping life simple on Sundays. Maybe since my soul is getting a good clean-up at Mass I feel the need to clean my home? Who knows?! All I know is that it feels "Sunday-ish" to do a little light housework. haha
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Would that apply to going online and buying a book for a nun or priest on a Sunday? Because that's what I did. I think it depends on the circumstances, and I doubt that God would hold that against me. And, I'm a senior---very hard to stay up until 10 let alone after midnight!
It has nothing to do with WHO you buy for - it's the act of buying on Sunday. As for my after-midnight suggestion, I simply mean that it should be once Sunday is past (online isn't like waiting behind a department store's door - it's available 24/7). I'm not judging you nor do I want you to feel badly. I'm answering the question, as I believe. As I was taught, working or unnecessary buying on Sunday is considered a sin. Actually, with my busy schedule, I find it VERY difficult to get things done - Sunday is my only day to do laundry, housework, food shopping - but I won't let myself. I'm deep enough in problems and don't want to add to list of transgressions. But it's not for me to judge anyone - just sharing beliefs on the question asked.
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