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Dec 1, '10, 12:22 pm
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New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
Peace and Good !!!
We are a Catholic Community of Friars and Nuns (Sisters) who want to live ALL the more of the Gospel with the facts and in the Truth.
We also live with out wanting, asking or touching money, not that it's bad to touch it, as also the disciples had a safe keeping, but our hearts have greatly desired to live also as Jesus says: "go with out bread, back pack, cane or money" (Cf. Mk 6, 7-8).
I have attached a vocational video of the conversion of our founder Friar Volantino.
Still alive, he was a maneger of a Pub and used to drive motor bikes at 300 km an hourWe hope you enjoy it...
(click on this photo here below to see the video)
Best wishes of Holiness and Beatific Immortality,
from the Little Friars and Sisters V.V. of Jesus and Mary: www.poorfriars.net
Ps. you can easily find our other vocational videos in the website
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Dec 1, '10, 1:48 pm
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
Wow! Definitely with the Spirit of the first Franciscans...walking the world... bringing God to the godless. Truly following the words of our Lord when He sent them out by two's to take and spread the Gospel to all the Earth.
God Bless,
Paul
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Dec 5, '10, 7:39 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
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Originally Posted by Paul2274
Wow! Definitely with the Spirit of the first Franciscans...walking the world... bringing God to the godless. Truly following the words of our Lord when He sent them out by two's to take and spread the Gospel to all the Earth.
God Bless,
Paul
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Peace and Good Paul,
I believe that we need to also explain that as apart of our rule a Little Brother and a Little Sister in our Community may never stay alone together, nor may any friar stay alone with any woman (vicaversa for the sisters).. we must at least be found in three. The above photo may lead some one to think that the friar and the sister were alone, but of course, there was the third party who took the photo.
And why do we have this rule..? not only to avoid any possible temptations, but also to leave a good witness, and to avoid tempting anyone in thinking stange things, as one may confuse us for a strange type of marrage or, one could say "ah haaa..! I saw the friar alone in a car with a woman!".. for this reason, even If a woman stops to give one of our frairs a lift, we must politly refuse it.
So then we friars Hitchhike either alone (as Philip in the Acts of Apostles; Cf. Ac 8,26-27) in "in two's" (if we are two friars together), or in three (two brothers and one sister, or two sisters and one brother), but the sisters can never Hitch alone without a brother (for saftey reasons - the brother acts as a "guardian Angel").
All this is better explained in the webiste we use: www.poorfriars.net.
The Lord thank you for your recognition of Christs work in us.
Best wishes of Holiness, Friar Antonio.
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Dec 5, '10, 9:55 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
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=Paul2274;7323751]Wow! Definitely with the Spirit of the first Franciscans...walking the world... bringing God to the godless. Truly following the words of our Lord when He sent them out by two's to take and spread the Gospel to all the Earth.
God Bless,
Paul
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As I have maintained...
GOD REMAINS IN CHARGE!
Let us pray that this trend continues and, God Willing, is sped up!
May God Provide for there every need, and Bless them super-abundently!
LET US PRAY!
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Can we partake of God's GLORY and NOT partake of His PASSION? NO!
A.B. Fulton Sheen: "The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and a lie is still a lie, even if everybody believes it."
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Dec 6, '10, 7:32 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
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Originally Posted by Poor Friars
Peace and Good Paul,
I believe that we need to also explain that as apart of our rule a Little Brother and a Little Sister in our Community may never stay alone together, nor may any friar stay alone with any woman (vicaversa for the sisters).. we must at least be found in three. The above photo may lead some one to think that the friar and the sister were alone, but of course, there was the third party who took the photo.
And why do we have this rule..? not only to avoid any possible temptations, but also to leave a good witness, and to avoid tempting anyone in thinking stange things, as one may confuse us for a strange type of marrage or, one could say "ah haaa..! I saw the friar alone in a car with a woman!".. for this reason, even If a woman stops to give one of our frairs a lift, we must politly refuse it.
So then we friars Hitchhike either alone (as Philip in the Acts of Apostles; Cf. Ac 8,26-27) in "in two's" (if we are two friars together), or in three (two brothers and one sister, or two sisters and one brother), but the sisters can never Hitch alone without a brother (for saftey reasons - the brother acts as a "guardian Angel").
All this is better explained in the webiste we use: www.poorfriars.net.
The Lord thank you for your recognition of Christs work in us.
Best wishes of Holiness, Friar Antonio.
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Pax et Bonum, dear Friar Antonio! (I used to be in the Third Order Franciscans, so I remember this greeting of St. Francis. And I have been to Assisi four times, though not since 1983)
What you've stated is very sensible, especially in these times. I'm glad that the brothers watch out for the sisters as 'guardian angels' as they travel 'on the road'.
When I first read about you here on CAF, I expressed concern about hitchhiking. It might be different where you are in Europe (hope that you are not suffering from the brutally cold weather), but here in the USA it's not legal in some states to hitchhike. My state of New York is one of them.
So, be careful, Friar Antonio, and all your brothers and sisters! You have my admiration and [shall I say it?] my love!
Barb
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Dec 9, '10, 7:02 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
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Pax et Bonum, dear Friar Antonio! (I used to be in the Third Order Franciscans, so I remember this greeting of St. Francis. And I have been to Assisi four times, though not since 1983)
What you've stated is very sensible, especially in these times. I'm glad that the brothers watch out for the sisters as 'guardian angels' as they travel 'on the road'.
When I first read about you here on CAF, I expressed concern about hitchhiking. It might be different where you are in Europe (hope that you are not suffering from the brutally cold weather), but here in the USA it's not legal in some states to hitchhike. My state of New York is one of them.
So, be careful, Friar Antonio, and all your brothers and sisters! You have my admiration and [shall I say it?] my love!
Barb
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Peace and Good Barb,
My stay in America was short, as I had to return for reasons of visa. As I now wait to apply for a religious visa, and wait for it's approval, I have recomenced my seminary studies in Italy, where God Willing after two years I will return to Louisiana as a Priest where a Bishop has welcomed us into his diocese.
Pray for us, and God Willing we will find a way around this problem of not being able to Hitchhike in New York so that one day we may even hopefuly visit you!
Best wishes of Holiness,
Friar Antonio.
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Dec 9, '10, 7:32 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
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Originally Posted by Poor Friars
Peace and Good Barb,
My stay in America was short, as I had to return for reasons of visa. As I now wait to apply for a religious visa, and wait for it's approval, I have recomenced my seminary studies in Italy, where God Willing after two years I will return to Louisiana as a Priest where a Bishop has welcomed us into his diocese.
Pray for us, and God Willing we will find a way around this problem of not being able to Hitchhike in New York so that one day we may even hopefuly visit you!
Best wishes of Holiness,
Friar Antonio.
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Peace and Good to you, Friar Antonio!
Thanks for your message. How nice to know that there is a Bishop here in the USA who has welcomed you and your community to his diocese! Louisiana has been called 'The Most Catholic State in the US'. It was settled by the French, then the Spaniards moved in before it became part of the United States through the 'Louisiana Purchase'. [a little American history lesson here  ]
Were you able to go to New Orleans? There is a well-known Marian shrine in the city, called Our Lady of Prompt Succor. Another shrine is to Blessed Francis Xavier Seelos, a German Redemptorist.
Well, that would be pretty cool if you were to come to New York to visit me! Just don't do it in the winter, all right?  We'll see what happens the next two years, Deo Volente.
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Dec 11, '10, 11:47 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
Peace and good!,
Yes I had the chance on several occasions ti visit New Orleans, but unfortunatly I never made it to the shrines. God willing one day apon our return we shall visit them.
Friar Antonio.
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Originally Posted by barb finnegan
Peace and Good to you, Friar Antonio!
Thanks for your message. How nice to know that there is a Bishop here in the USA who has welcomed you and your community to his diocese! Louisiana has been called 'The Most Catholic State in the US'. It was settled by the French, then the Spaniards moved in before it became part of the United States through the 'Louisiana Purchase'. [a little American history lesson here  ]
Were you able to go to New Orleans? There is a well-known Marian shrine in the city, called Our Lady of Prompt Succor. Another shrine is to Blessed Francis Xavier Seelos, a German Redemptorist.
Well, that would be pretty cool if you were to come to New York to visit me! Just don't do it in the winter, all right?  We'll see what happens the next two years, Deo Volente.
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Dec 12, '10, 7:44 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
I believe your order is one of the ones that my eleven-year-old brother said "looks really cool;" he's praying about becoming a religious one day.
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Dec 14, '10, 2:03 pm
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
Peace and Good !
That for us is a beautiful sign, as it's written in the Bible: "Even through the mouths of children, or babes in arms You afferm (oh Lord) You power against Your enemies".. (Cf. Ps8,2) Let him know that we will pray also for him, that he discover with certainty in his life what Gods Will is for him (what ever it may be).
Best wishes in becoming Saint, and best wishes of beatific Immortality,
From the Little Friars V.V.
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I believe your order is one of the ones that my eleven-year-old brother said "looks really cool;" he's praying about becoming a religious one day.
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Dec 19, '10, 6:51 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
Will someone explain this to me:
Decreto di regolamentazione dei gruppi detti "Piccolo frati e suore di Gesu e Maria"
and found the following at other forum
English translation
less than two years have passed since de benevolent ad experimentum of so-called "Piccollo brothers and sisters of Jesus and
Mary" received into the Episcopal Diocese taxed by decree in May 2008. Since that date many negative signals in respect of
that group are presented to us, and various other parts of the Diocese and the Diocese of Itallie and by some bishops and by
"some" members, who during the year past have created a new iztitutione with the approval of the diocesan of Lamezia Terme.
However, despite this, we have been waiting patiently, hoping that everything returns to normal in that group seeing some good
and good will, at least in some of the components
found
that we were surprised and deeply saddened in recent times for acts that are degenerate, as the tip of the iceberg, in the
Cathedral on Sunday 28 February at 13.00, ahead of many people with shouts and tumult that the Church certainly does not
deserve Caltanissetta. From this hubbub we are deeply marked out in pain: Bishops, priests, the so-called "Flyers" and the
various families that do not yet give peace.
occurred
that there is a general discontent among the people for the way they are recruited as vocations, a way that had not been
equaled in the history of the Church. We need everything, using behavior grossly illcciti as plagiarism, threats, announcement of
punishment, misuse of the word of God detached from its biblical context ... with pressure and behavior contrary to theology
and pastoral practice of the Church.
is not given the slightest vocational discernment, violating the conscience, binding them in an iron flyer initiator the trial, which
looks like a new St. Francis, a prophet of the new millennium. Resulting consequences and disorders of the psyche to libel,
which are among the most serious diseases in the opinion of several doctors and psychiatrists in the city.
Considered
that this is a reprehensible conduct that smacks of impropriety and bragging to people, but also against the authority
established; know of disobedience to the rules repeated several times by the bishop and communicated personally to the same
flyer.
Wishing
For our part not to mortify the Spirit, but to grasp the obvious lack of orthodoxy and proceed freely, "without law", with initiatives
that are the negation of the interior life of humility and poverty of the Gospel itself.
Evaluated
the serious situation created and that none of us could predict, with a heavy atmosphere of suffering and fragmentation of the
Church that the diocese can no longer tolerate. After obtaining the unanimous opinion of the Council convened Presibiterale
today because it expresses in this regard.
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Dec 19, '10, 6:52 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
Establishes and decrees
that the group can no longer depend on flyer, but if I want to redeem themselves for the future will have to strictly abide by the
following mandatory and unconditional provisions:
1. The Bishop will appoint a commission of five priests, will be followed by groups of men or women - improperly called "Little
Brothers and Sisters of Jesus and Mary" - who are living together
2. Among these five priests, the Bishop appointed the Superior, which directly and solely responsible for the aforementioned
groups, as well as direct referent of the bishop.
3. At the top are to refer those who lead the common life and he must give absolute and unconditional obedience.
4. The initiator of these groups - called "Flyer" - will have to suspend all relations with all others, including so-called "allies", at
least for the next three years.
5. To this end flyer must leave the Diocese for a place - indicated by the Bishop - for reflection and personal training, under the
guidance of a spiritual director.
6. Those who have already started living together may continue to perform according to the regulation will be prepared by
Priests commission appointed by the Bishop.
7. all those who have been accepted among the groups of men or women of common life, from the month of January 2009, must
leave this group, divest any kind of dress and return to their families.
8. As long as there will be no legal recognition by the competent ecclesiastical authority, any "promises" given above are not
recognized let alone be considered binding on members.Therefore, remembering that the vote and delivered before a higher
authority and as part of a celebration litugica, all are freed from any constraint a religious, strictly understood.
9. you can no longer allow anyone to take up vocational discernment when and if the Bishop will give official recognition to the
group.
10. and prohibited the so-called "little brothers and sisters" to leave the city of Caltanissetta for activities of evangelization or
the allies to follow other cities or other dioceses.
11. For the so called "allies"establishes the possibility to meet only once a month for a prayer meeting, only in the church of San
Domenico in Caltanissetta, without any catechesis by so-called "little brothers and sisters. " These are forbidden to meet with
"allies" in their homes or in places other than the church of San Domenico.
12. Those who are living together are instituting a fund from which to draw for the needs of all members, including the
installation of telephone and spirit of true poverty must relinquish all electronic and digital, which at present are said to be
trustees and not owners.
13. Those who attend the Theological Institute, for those who accept these disposiozioni can continue to do so until the end of
this Academic Year, after that will have to continue their studies at other academic centers.
14. E 'is binding and must remove from the website any reference to the following: constitution, regulation, vocational
orientation, consecrated laity, bishops who support, catechesis and various miracles, photos with the bishops and so on.
15. If these provisions are accepted - in full and without adding to it - you start experimentally for a period of three years, but
only with the members before January 2009. At the end of this period we will assess what to do. It is obvious that each
provision, and seen as strictly binding on all members of community life.
Given in Caltanissetta on March 3, 2010, the seventh year of the episcopate
+ Mario Russotto
Sac. Andrea Gaetano Muscarella
Vice-Chancellor of the Diocesan
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Dec 19, '10, 7:05 am
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
i think "Flyer" refers to the founder. I hope Friar Antonio will explain this matter for us.
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Dec 19, '10, 9:23 pm
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
Fra Antonio, what diocese is your community attached to now, since you are no longer part of Caltanissetta?
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Dec 19, '10, 9:29 pm
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Re: New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..
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Fra Antonio, what diocese is your community attached to now, since you are no longer part of Caltanissetta?
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how could that be? they are not even allowed to leave Caltanissetta?
and I wonder if things has changed, since this is last March 2010.
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