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RebeccaJ · #31 May 18, '11, 10:16 pm

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Originally Posted by TheExorcist

Thank you for your prayers. I will need all the grace I can receive in order to break away with the situation Im in now. My wife is a Knight, and yes that's in Joseph and Newell Knight so you can see how deep the church runs in her family.

I'm from those NY Mormons who did the pioneer trek in 1847, traveling with BY, polygamous marriages, the whole bit. I went through a stage years and years ago where I felt like I was some sort of familial traitor. Then I went through my family's genealogy, and found that before the people in my family converted to Mormonism, they were Universalists. Before that, Anglicans, and some Lutherans. Before that, Roman Catholic, and before that, pagans of some sort.

Obviously, a lot of people in there were not being true to the faith that their parents have cherished.

It is something that is so drilled into you as a Mormon, that I was dealing with it as an atheist, who didn't believe one thing about Mormonism, but still had this idea in my head that I had to be something a bunch of dead people were.

We don't live for the dead. We all work out our own salvation, with hope and faith in Jesus Christ.

In my own situation, where my husband is atheist, I didn't want him to know I was checking out any religion, but eventually told him that I was going to "find God", and started going to RCIA.

Here's the thing, he voiced concerns that me "finding God" would be the end of our marriage. I told him it didn't have to be, and that is not what I wanted. But the problem was, if he made it hard for me to do what I wanted to do, then there might be something to be worried about. There just wasn't going to be any stopping me, for any reason.

When I was baptized, he came to Mass, and he goes to Mass with me on Christmas day. Other than that, he has the atheist view that religion is a psychological crutch, and so he's ok with me needing the "crutch".

I keep telling him that is not how it is, but, it doesn't get through.

You have to live your life, just go to Mass. Being held hostage by your spouse is no way to live, it will eventually lead to resentment. That 11th article of faith should mean something, no?

God protect you from all anxiety.

Peace be with you.

Esdra · #32 May 19, '11, 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by LOCO

I live in a city where there is a beautiful Mormon temple that I pass each afternoon as I go for my run. There are no visible doors, it is like Fort Knox with fencing etc. Are passers by allowed to enter or not? I have seen cars enter the carpark but you need an electroinc pass.

Do you have to be Mormon to enter?

I guess I am used to churches having their doors open all day for everyone (believers or not) to enter and pray.

Only worthy (meaning having a priesthood, either Melchezidek or Aaronic) and baptised LDS members are allowed to enter the Temple. - So in theory not even all LDS members are allowed to enter the temple. - In practice, however, nearly every male is a priest.

However, you are allowed to visit their Chaples. - Please help me out my dear Mormon-brothers and sisters - I forgot how they are called.

A Mormon sect called Community of Christ has only ONE Temple in Independence, Missouri, USA and there everyone can enter.

I am, however, not sure about the other Mormon sects.

in Christ,

xixxvmcm85 · #33 May 27, '11, 2:51 am

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Originally Posted by TheExorcist

Thank you for your prayers. I will need all the grace I can receive in order to break away with the situation Im in now. My wife is a Knight, and yes that's in Joseph and Newell Knight so you can see how deep the church runs in her family.

I have Knight blood from about 4 generations ago, and it was reintroduced to the family through my brother's wife.

You and I, good sir, are distantly removed inlaws!

I have a recent story I'd like to tell you. I went to visit my Relief Society president of a mother a few days ago and noticed, of all things, a rosary sitting on her office desk. This is the same mother who upon learning of my conversion to Catholicism lamented the loss of her son, and who (according to my siblings) spent weeks in agony asking herself where she went wrong as a mother.

I picked it up and asked her what's this? She stuttered and stumbled for a bit and finally said "Oh, uh, it's a gift... for you! I thought you might like it!"

I also noticed a piece of paper on the desk with the Angelus, Apostle's Creed, and Salve Regina written on it. There's no way this was a gift for anyone and it was readily apparent she was actually praying with these. Did I mention I had been praying for her conversion for the past six months?

I conveniently forgot my "gift" there. Maybe in a couple weeks I'll muster up the courage to ask her to come to Mass with me.

God works incredibly strange, incredibly unexpected miracles, so I hope you aren't yet finding yourself despondent over your wife's reaction to your interest in Apostolic Christianity. She very well may come around, with the right amount of love and prayer.

You might want to check out brother Sunstone's thread mentioning his wife following him into the Catholic Church from the LDS Church, and even send him a private message if you so feel compelled.

I'm still praying for you two.

TheExorcist · #34 May 27, '11, 2:51 pm

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Originally Posted by xixxvmcm85

I have Knight blood from about 4 generations ago, and it was reintroduced to the family through my brother's wife.

You and I, good sir, are distantly removed inlaws!

I have a recent story I'd like to tell you. I went to visit my Relief Society president of a mother a few days ago and noticed, of all things, a rosary sitting on her office desk. This is the same mother who upon learning of my conversion to Catholicism lamented the loss of her son, and who (according to my siblings) spent weeks in agony asking herself where she went wrong as a mother.

I picked it up and asked her what's this? She stuttered and stumbled for a bit and finally said "Oh, uh, it's a gift... for you! I thought you might like it!"

I also noticed a piece of paper on the desk with the Angelus, Apostle's Creed, and Salve Regina written on it. There's no way this was a gift for anyone and it was readily apparent she was actually praying with these. Did I mention I had been praying for her conversion for the past six months?

I conveniently forgot my "gift" there. Maybe in a couple weeks I'll muster up the courage to ask her to come to Mass with me.

God works incredibly strange, incredibly unexpected miracles, so I hope you aren't yet finding yourself despondent over your wife's reaction to your interest in Apostolic Christianity. She very well may come around, with the right amount of love and prayer.

You might want to check out brother Sunstone's thread mentioning his wife following him into the Catholic Church from the LDS Church, and even send him a private message if you so feel compelled.

I'm still praying for you two.

Thanks!! I've been praying the rosary daily, even shooting for twice a day when possible. I know our Lady's intervention can be miraculous. Im also going to incorporate the Divine Mercy Chaplet into my routine. Beside EWTN podcasts this is the only interaction I have with Catholics. There is no way to break away for Mass on Sunday, DEFINITELY not Sunday (dang 3 hour block). All the prayers I receive from you fine fold sustain me and your stories give me hope, however small.

Thanks LOADS!

Charles

tundramom · #35 May 27, '11, 3:23 pm

you know, in a way I am very grateful that I was never "worthy" to go to the temple after reading the text of the ceremony.

I am praying for all my Mormon friends/family that they can break through the darkness and come HOME!

Steph

KathleenGee · #36 May 27, '11, 3:39 pm

I am praying every day and now in the sleepless nights for the Mormon people, that they come to see the blessing Catholics conversions can do to their own families.

pinay · #37 May 27, '11, 4:05 pm

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Originally Posted by KathleenGee

I am praying every day and now in the sleepless nights for the Mormon people, that they come to see the blessing Catholics conversions can do to their own families.

That's awesome. My mother sends monthly donations to the Carmelite sisters to pray for me too! I got all these people praying for me. It's super awesome!

I'm praying for you too. Then everybody will always have somebody praying for them, including all the Catholics. It's as it should be.

Inishfree · #38 May 27, '11, 4:29 pm

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Originally Posted by SteveVH

I find this very curious. How are you not able to get out if that is what you wish to do? I could leave the Catholic Church tomorrow and, while I'm sure I would get some calls from my Catholic friends, there is really nothing they could do if that was my wish. I could understand maybe if it was a family issue and I certainly don't mean to pry. It just sounds strange.

That is exactly what I was wondering?

I stopped going to the Methodist church because I would go with my granny. She got a job working on Sunday's and I wasn't old enough to drive at the time. I started to attend a local Catholic parish, I could walk to and of course this was fine with my family. I liked this parish so much that when I became an adult. I chose to become a member. I was never excommunicated from the Methodist church or anything like that. I have very fond memories of my childhood parish. What drew me to Catholism, was the honoring of the Blessed Mother and the beautiful mass. Other than that. The two denominations are very simular.

Inishfree · #39 May 27, '11, 4:34 pm

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Originally Posted by TheExorcist

Married a dyed-in-the-wool Mormon girl. Her family goes back to several of Joseph Smith's companions. She's made it clear if I leave the church she leaves me. If that happens I lose my son as well. Better to play Mormon than lose my family. I tried to leave the church once. Ironically when I was transferred to UT for work. I started attending an Episcopal parish and fell in love with the liturgy and made a connection with one of the priests there. Then when my family joined me my wife about had a meltdown so I resumed my LDS activities. So, I wait.....

This saddens me to read this. As far as custody of your child it would legally be with both parents. I pray that things get better for you. No matter what you choose.

God bless you.

Inishfree · #40 May 27, '11, 4:37 pm

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Originally Posted by TheExorcist

Thanks!! I've been praying the rosary daily, even shooting for twice a day when possible. I know our Lady's intervention can be miraculous. Im also going to incorporate the Divine Mercy Chaplet into my routine. Beside EWTN podcasts this is the only interaction I have with Catholics. There is no way to break away for Mass on Sunday, DEFINITELY not Sunday (dang 3 hour block). All the prayers I receive from you fine fold sustain me and your stories give me hope, however small.

Thanks LOADS!

Charles

Hi Charles,

I hope. I am not being intrusive. Most Catholic churches have chapel masses on weekdays, in the morning. Usually around 8am.

P.S. I have been in love and married to my husband for 28 years. If he chose to be another denomination or religion, such as Jewish, Buhdist or Muslim. I would never leave him. I would respect his wishes and respect his beliefs. As he would respect mine.

TheExorcist · #41 May 27, '11, 4:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Inishfree

Hi Charles,

I hope. I am not being intrusive. Most Catholic churches have chapel masses on weekdays, in the morning. Usually around 8am.

P.S. I have been in love and married to my husband for 28 years. If he chose to be another denomination or religion, such as Jewish, Buhdist or Muslim. I would never leave him. I would respect his wishes and respect his beliefs. As he would respect mine.

Oh yes I know. I work at 6am and so cannot make it to those Masses. We have three parishes here in our town of 45,000 all within 5 minutes of my house and all three have M-F Mass at either 8 or 8:30. So if I ever have the freedom to come home I will be able to easily. One of those is even an FSSP parish

I SO wish my wife felt as you so. She has told me point blank if I ever left the church she would leave me. Im quite sad her love for me is tied to my membership in the LDS church.

SteveVH · #42 May 27, '11, 6:47 pm

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Originally Posted by TheExorcist

Thanks!! I've been praying the rosary daily, even shooting for twice a day when possible. I know our Lady's intervention can be miraculous. Im also going to incorporate the Divine Mercy Chaplet into my routine. Beside EWTN podcasts this is the only interaction I have with Catholics. There is no way to break away for Mass on Sunday, DEFINITELY not Sunday (dang 3 hour block). All the prayers I receive from you fine fold sustain me and your stories give me hope, however small.

Thanks LOADS!

Charles

I hope you realize that you are receiving incredible graces for the cross you are carrying. God knows the desire of your heart. I wish you much peace.

Inishfree · #43 May 28, '11, 7:25 am

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Originally Posted by SteveVH

I hope you realize that you are receiving incredible graces for the cross you are carrying. God knows the desire of your heart. I wish you much peace.

I think so too. Peace be with you. God does know what is in your heart.

KathleenGee · #44 May 28, '11, 11:41 am

Pinay,

Thanks for your prayers! They are deeply appreciated....

I love the biblical spirituality of the Carmelites and receive their 'Carmelite Digest' magazine that comes out of California....deep inner silence to hear the Lord Who comes through the gentle breeze...

Some times when I am alone, and I are start to pray, I notice the branches and leaves gently begin to sway...like responding to my prayers....and it makes me think of the Holy Spirit taking the prayers to those in need...

We need to pray more with confidence that the Lord does indeed hear us and will answer every prayer.

zaffiroborant · #45 May 28, '11, 10:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Inishfree

Hi Charles,

I hope. I am not being intrusive. Most Catholic churches have chapel masses on weekdays, in the morning. Usually around 8am.

P.S. I have been in love and married to my husband for 28 years. If he chose to be another denomination or religion, such as Jewish, Buhdist or Muslim. I would never leave him. I would respect his wishes and respect his beliefs. As he would respect mine.

And Saturday mornings and evenings, evening is usually around 5pm.