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Hi. So I thought I'd pose the question: what is the REAL number of Protestant denominations? I've heard everywhere from 25,000; 33,000; 38,000; 40,000; and 60,000.
60,000 may be a bit high, but the other numbers reflect the Protestant denominations in different years. It's a growing number, so depending upon when the book or article you are reading was written, you will see a different number quoted.
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Many are not creedal churches. Many outright reject any sort of creed. Each church then has their own belief systems and each person within the church is guided by their own conscience.
Incorrect. Each of these groups is guided by the "magisterium" or leadership of the "church"...if you disagree with the leadership team, you will be asked to leave.

The leaders reserve the right to private judgment for themselves, but they cannot allow it among the members; otherwise, the entire "church" loses its cohesion and splits again.
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I think that brings us to the following separately-identifiable groups:

1)Lutheranism
1a)ELCA
1b)LCMS
1c)WELS
1d)LCMC
1e)dozens of smaller "micro-synods" that claim to be more confessional and conservative than the ELCA, several of which were formed as a rejection of the various 20th Century mergers (because the "new" church would be "too liberal") that eventually led to the formation of the ELCA in 1988; they are listed/described here

2)Calvinism
2a)Presbyterianism
2a1)Presbyterian Church (USA)
2a2)Presbyterian Church in America
2a3)Evangelical Presbyterian Church
2a4)Orthodox Presbyterian Church
2a5)Reformed Presbyterian Church
2a6)Bible Presbyterian Church
2a7Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church (ARP Synod)
2a8)Cumberland Presbyterian Church
2a9)Cumberland Presbyterian Church in America
2a10)Westminster Presbyterian Church in the United States (WPCUS)
2a11)Reformed Presbyterian Church in the United States (RPCUS)
2b)Congregationalism
2b1)United Church of Christ
2b2)Conservative Congregational Christian Conference (CCCC)
2b3)National Association of Congregational Christian Churches
2c)Reformed

3)Pietists and Holiness Churches
3a)Salvation Army

4)Independent
4a)Philippine Independent Church

5)Baptists
5a)Southern Baptist Convention
5b)American Baptist Churches USA
5c)however many Baptist churches that came about because of splits from other Baptist churches

6)Methodists
6a) United Methodist
6b) African Methodist Episcopal Church
6c) Free Methodist Church
6d) Congregational Methodist Church
6e) The Evangelical Church of North America
6f) The Wesleyan Church
6g) Church of the Nazarene

7)Seventh Day Adventists

8)Anabaptist
8a)Mennonites
8b)Amish
8c)Schwarzenau Brethren
8d)Plymouth Brethren
8e)Moravians
8f)Hutterites

9)Anglican
9a)Anglican Communion
9b)Continuing Anglicans

10)Quaker
10a)Conservative / "Wilburite"
10b)Liberal / "Hicksite"
10c)Gurneyite
10d)Beanite
10e)Evangelical

11)Pentecostalism
11a)Assemblies of God
11b)Church of God
11c)Church of God in Christ
11d)International Church of the Foursquare Gospel
11e)United Pentecostal Church International
11f)International Pentecostal Holiness Church

12)Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement
12a)Churches of Christ
12b)Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
12c)Independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ

13)United churches
13a)United Church of Canada

Plus the ones we either haven't determined where to put and/or haven't even started trying to determine where to put:
  • Old Catholic (mentioned in one post because of their affiliation with the Philippine Independent Church)
  • Polish National Catholic Church
  • non-denominational / evangelical bible churches
  • African-American churches
  • Christian and Missionary Alliance - started as parachurch organizations in 1887, officially organized as a denomination in 1965
  • Evangelical Free Church of America - formed in 1950 as a merger of Swedish Evangelical Free Church and Norwegian-Danish Evangelical Free Church Association
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Just some "micro-divisions" among the Baptists:

American Baptist Convention
Southern Baptist Convention
National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
National Baptist Convention of America
American Baptist Association
Baptist General Conference of America
Christian Unity Baptist Association
Conservative Baptist Association of America
Duck River (and Kindred) Associations of Baptists
Evangelical Baptist Church, Inc., General Conference
Free Will Baptists
General Association of Regular (as opposed to irregualar ???) Baptist Churches
General Baptists
General Six-Principle Baptists
Independent Baptist Church of America
National Primitive Baptist Convention of the U.S.A.
North American Baptist General Conference
Primitive Baptists
Seventh Day Baptist General Conference
Seventh Day Baptists (German 1728)
Two-Seed-In-The-Spirit Predestinarian Baptists
United Baptists
United Free Will Baptist Church

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Old May 13, '11, 9:33 am
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Adventist Bodies:

Advent Christian Church
Church of God (Abrahamic Faith)
Life and Advent Union
Primitive Advent Christian Church
Seventh Day Adventists
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Churches of the Living God:

Church of the Living God (Christian Workers for Fellowship)
House of God, Which is the Church of the Living God, the Pillar and Ground of Truth, Inc. (This is not a joke. I did not make this one up.)
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The Philippine Independent Church is in full communion with both the Episcopal Church in the USA and the Old Catholic Union of Utrecht -- but not the Polish National Catholic Church (which seceded from the Union in 2004)
Thanks, Erich...I did not know this info. I always thought the PIC had remained within the boundaries of the Philippines.
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Pentecostal "micro-divisions":

Calvary Pentacostal Church, Inc.
Emmanuel Holiness Church
International Pentacostal Assemblies
Pentacostal Assemblies of the World, Inc.
Pentacostal Church of Christ
Pentacostal Church of God of America, Inc.
Pentacostal Fire-Baptized Holiness Church
The Pentacostal Holiness Church, Inc.
United Pentacostal Church
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Yes I just noticed the conflict(between SDA and Mennonites). It's corrected in the official list. I feel listing all the subgroups would be exhausting!
I think you should just say...Lutherans and their subgroups (ELCA, LCMC, WELS...etc..)

SDA and subgroups (unknown number or give a guess).

It is going to be exhaustive.Aren't there also breakaway groups from the subgroups?

If you are going to list the JWs, you should at least list the INK or Iglesia Ni Kristo too.
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Churches of God "micro-divisions":

Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee)
Church of God (Anderson, Indiana)
Church of God (Seventh Day)
The (Original) Church of God, Inc.
The Church of God
The Church of God, Seventh Day (Denver, Colorado)
The Church of God of Prophecy
Evangelistic Church of God
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Churches of the New Jerusalem:

General Convention of the New Jerusalem in the U.S.A.
General Church of the New Jerusalem
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I think that brings us to the following separately-identifiable groups:

1)Lutheranism
1a)ELCA
1b)LCMS
1c)WELS
1d)LCMC
1e)dozens of smaller "micro-synods" that claim to be more confessional and conservative than the ELCA, several of which were formed as a rejection of the various 20th Century mergers (because the "new" church would be "too liberal") that eventually led to the formation of the ELCA in 1988; they are listed/described here

  • Old Catholic (mentioned in one post because of their affiliation with the Philippine Independent Church)
  • Polish National Catholic Church
  • non-denominational / evangelical bible churches
  • African-American churches
  • Christian and Missionary Alliance - started as parachurch organizations in 1887, officially organized as a denomination in 1965
  • Evangelical Free Church of America - formed in 1950 as a merger of Swedish Evangelical Free Church and Norwegian-Danish Evangelical Free Church Association


I am more confused than ever before.

I did not know there could be that many. Close to my son's school, I pass by this...Grace Reformed Baptist Church....then a few blocks...there the another one, the name of which escapes me, then within a three block are close to work, I count another 10 or so independent ones...I gave up trying to count, since I lost count.
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Evangelistic Associations:

Apostolic Christian Church (Nazarean)
Apostolic Christian Church of America
Apostolic Faith Mission
The Christian Congregation
Church of Daniel's Band
Church of God (Apostolic)
Church of God as Organized by Christ
Metropolitan Church Association
Missionary Bands of the World, Inc.
Missionary Church Association
Pillar of Fire
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According to George Weigel
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Every January, the International Bulletin of Missionary Research publishes a “Statistical Table on Global Mission” — a detailed look at the world religious situation prepared by the mathematically indefatigable David Barrett.
Their site is at:

http://www.internationalbulletin.org/
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I think you should just say...Lutherans and their subgroups (ELCA, LCMC, WELS...etc..)

SDA and subgroups (unknown number or give a guess).

It is going to be exhaustive.Aren't there also breakaway groups from the subgroups?

If you are going to list the JWs, you should at least list the INK or Iglesia Ni Kristo too.
If I may answer, yes, there are breakaway groups from the subgroups.

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