Would Like Prayers as Seriously Considering Leaving the Church

Young1970 · #1 Jun 14, '11, 12:59 pm

Hello! I am new to this forum and sufferring because of some recent activity that I have been enduring here in Lincoln NE. I am a Roman Catholic but was heavily involved with the Islamic religion off and on since 2001 due to a marriage to a Sunni Lebanese Muslim. I reconciled with the Church fully about a month ago and was hopeful about once again becoming active in my Catholic faith. That idea has now been replaced by my strong desire to leave the Catholic Church once and for all and go where I will have peace; possibly back to the Islamic community. I am remarried to a wonderful Christian Protestant man, who is going to be meeting with a local Lincoln Catholic priest who has been somewhat active off and on in assisting me with the situation I was presently in. My husband and I relocated gto Lincoln NE from Indiana where I was doing volunteer work as a translator in Spanish for the "MIssion". I not only taught Spanish to two social workers so they could better assist their Hispanic clients but also worked closely with two single HIspanic mothers, Diana and Elvira with appointments, filling out paperwork, going to Bible studies and translating, and being there as a friend. The Mission was a former funeral home two years ago and I began to hear from some of the women of strange occurrences in the women's section including, shadow people, noises, ect. The family unit storage was located in the basement of the building. I became close friends with the house "mom" Gwynn whol told me that there were entities down in the basement talkingt o her and giving her messages. I dismissed this but in mid November I went into the basement to assist Elvira and her four children with their belongings. We were the last ones up the stairs and watched as the carpet holding the door open pulled out by itself and the door closed. Elvira, a very religious woman, noted that she felt a demonic presence in the basement. I made the mistake of going down the steps a week later and challenging the entity if there to manifest itself. Nothing happened THEN.

My husband and I then relocated to Lincoln NE and moved into an apartment in late March of this year. Almost upon moving the occurrences began. We would hear strange noises coming from the kitchen, wrestling of papers, ect. NO ONE was in the kitchen. The cat would look up at the corner of the ceiling in the middle of the night for no reason. THree scratch marks appeared on my husband's leg from no apparent reason. I have been plagued by very negative and dark dreams since moving to this apartment. The women downstairs had noticed the swarm, of flies which are at the front door from no apparent reason and also at the back of building door which houses the laundry room. We would hear footsteps in our hallway and no one was there. A Lincoln priest came and blessed the apartment and encouraged me to move which I did last Thursday, June 9th. There has been NO ACTIVITY AT ALL in the present apartment. The priest wanted me to talk with the expert of the diocease on this matter but has been putting off my meeting this priest for the past THREE WEEKS. My husband has been a witness to ALL of this activity here in Lincoln. My husband works third shift and alerted me yesterday in the previous Lincoln apartment there was at least SIX occassions when he thought something was sitting on the bed; when he looked up to see if the cat was there he found NOTHING. I am still suffering from very dark and negative dreams. I have not even been to Mass since I was reconciled with the Church and frankly don't have a desire now to go. I am considering seriously of reaffiliating myself with the Islamic community because I know at least they would be there for me to get me through this present situation. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH and how to negate it. It appears I will NEVER HAVE SUCH AN ANSWER FROM my Catholic priest contact here and will never get to meet with the expert here on these matters. I am really burnt out right now with all of this. I thought returning to the Church was a gift frrom God; apparently I made a mistake. I could use some prayers as I am really sufferring here and know that meeting with this expert WOULD HAVE GIVEN me some peace, but that appears it will never happen. I have been volunteering the last couple of weeks on Saturday at this parish's Food Net for 3-4 hours to give back to the community and to become acquainted with some good Catholics. Father keeps telling me he is going to have me meet with the expert but there is ALWAYS AN EXCUSE. He said he would get back with me to meet this week; that has YET TO HAPPEN. I could use some prayers right now as I feel totally alone right now.

Thanks

Laurie

Blacksword · #2 Jun 14, '11, 2:25 pm

Um, I'm a little confused. What do you want help with? The feelings of wanting to leave the Church for Islam, or the possibly evil demonic manifestations in your apartment? Your Protestant husband? There's a lot going on here but I must ask: if you think your apartment has demonic influences in it but are considering leaving the Church, why would you seek a Preist's help? Why not an Imam? If the Preist can rid your apartment of this, maybe the Catholic Church has it right after all?

josephback · #3 Jun 14, '11, 2:39 pm

I'll pray for you. Leaving the Church would just increase your problems!

soccerdad57 · #4 Jun 14, '11, 3:01 pm

I'm not a priest or very powerful in the church but I know that God loves me and I will ask Him to help on your behalf. I would encourage you to keep fighting against powers and principalities by going to confession often and praying the rosary in church for the benefit of someone else who needs your help too. Focus on the Lord and stop obsessing so much on darkness - this could be a trial of your faith and some the saints endured much in this regard but this could also be brought on by your need "to figure out whats going on" and challenging entities and so on - for heaven's sake forget all that - know that God loves you, you are in His Church right now "...and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". Do not give in to the temptation to leave His Church - its a struggle but with prayer all things are possible and if there is spiritual warfare going on did you ever consider it was to try and take you away from the Church? You don't have to be a powerful fighter - just run to your Father in heaven and ask Him to protect you and lighten up a little - Jesus has already conquered hell and sits at God's right hand with all the heavenly host praising him for eternity - its pretty darn happy up there! - join in on that! Lastly, remember the part about confession and daily prayer - that is key - I will pray for you too - May God bless you and May St. Michael the Archangel surround and bless your home with God's goodness!

**the phoenix** · #5 Jun 14, '11, 3:31 pm

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death.
Amen.

Young1970 · #6 Jun 14, '11, 3:45 pm

Thank you so very much for your prayers and advice! I am very confused right now as I NEVER really believed in such experiences until I witnessed it with my own eyes in Elkhart Indiana with Elvira and her children when the carpet pulled out by itself from the door to the basement, and there was NO ONE downstairs. I asked for a very good Catholic priest to go and bless the Mission basement, but Ms. Tonnes, the social worker refused as she is Baptist and very Anti-Catholic. When we moved to Lincoln, I was surprised as I ONLY deal with the Franciscans and there are NONE in close proximity. I found a Catholic Diocesan priest I trusted and reconciled with the Church. He understands the problems that I dealt with in the other apartment, and even witnessed the swarm of flies when we moved last THursday; his comment: "That is not normal!". I went to Food Net Saturday, and Father assured me that I would be meeting with the Diocesan expert on these kinds of matters this week; this has yet to materialize! He has been promising me this for THREE LONG WEEKS! I am having very dark and negative dreams since living in the old apartment and is now continuing; I HAVE NEVER experienced this before. I don't give in to such experiences but now to be honest I don't have ANY motivation to go to Mass, pray, ect. I feel very far from Our Lady and Our Lord and really don't have any motivation now towards this. I need to talk to this expert with the Diocese here in Lincoln but don't think this will ever happen. I FEEL VERY FAR AWAY from my Catholic faith. I feel as if I am being punished by God!

**ready** · #7 Jun 14, '11, 3:49 pm

May you dismiss every temptation to leave the Church, the one and only church established by Christ. A Catholic priest is the only person who can help you against these demonic forces, so may you patiently await to hear from this expert priest you speak of. May the Lord grant you an increase in the virtues of faith, hope and love and come to your assistance. Amen.

Benedict54 · #8 Jun 14, '11, 3:57 pm

Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.

Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.

Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in saecula

Young1970 · #9 Jun 15, '11, 5:17 am

Thanks for all the replies and prayers but I have decided that since this priest here in Lincoln NE has obviously decided that my situation is not important that it is best for me to no longer consider myself a Catholic while living in Nebraska. I will remain AWAY from the Church during the remainder of the following year living here(my husband and I are relocating back to Ohio in one year when he is able to transfer with his work as all my family is in Cincinnati). I am quitting the Food Net with this local parish on Saturdays and will remain astray from this parish and the Church here. I am sufferring so much here and this priest had assured me that he would meet with me and the expert two weeks ago; of course that fell through and the priest ONLY talked to me about it on Saturday when I volunteered FOUR hours of my time on his project of the Food Net. I HAVE NEVER even been to Mass here as I am too ashamed as I HAVE NEVER experienced something like this situation before and then I turn to the Church for help and THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN ASSIST ME with this I am being turned away from. I don't think this is what I consider a TRUE religion so I will go somewhere else to find peace as I am certainly BURNT out with this Catholocism in Lincoln NE!

soccerdad57 · #10 Jun 15, '11, 10:13 am

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Originally Posted by Young1970

Thanks for all the replies and prayers but I have decided that since this priest here in Lincoln NE has obviously decided that my situation is not important that it is best for me to no longer consider myself a Catholic while living in Nebraska. I will remain AWAY from the Church during the remainder of the following year living here(my husband and I are relocating back to Ohio in one year when he is able to transfer with his work as all my family is in Cincinnati). I am quitting the Food Net with this local parish on Saturdays and will remain astray from this parish and the Church here. I am sufferring so much here and this priest had assured me that he would meet with me and the expert two weeks ago; of course that fell through and the priest ONLY talked to me about it on Saturday when I volunteered FOUR hours of my time on his project of the Food Net. I HAVE NEVER even been to Mass here as I am too ashamed as I HAVE NEVER experienced something like this situation before and then I turn to the Church for help and THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN ASSIST ME with this I am being turned away from. I don't think this is what I consider a TRUE religion so I will go somewhere else to find peace as I am certainly BURNT out with this Catholocism in Lincoln NE!

You sound angry at your parish and this priest who is probably pretty busy with the rest of the congregation and some of their events, weddings, baptisms, confessions (you know you could probably talk to him if you ever went to confession -just a suggestion), and other problems of other people in your parish - I know it feels like you should be the only one but again - if you ever went to mass and talked to other people afterwards...anyways - if you leave the Church because your parish priest made you angry by not affording you all the respect and attention you desire from him in the time frame that you want it, it is not the priest who in the end has offended God - I hope that you return someday and will keep you in my prayers

Benedict54 · #11 Jun 15, '11, 11:47 am

Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.

Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.

Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in saecula

**244Rocket** · #12 Jun 15, '11, 12:53 pm

Praying for you.

Young1970 · #13 Jun 15, '11, 1:18 pm

Shalom! I appreciate all of the replies. YES: I am angry but I feel rightfully so. I realize that things come up, ect but THE PRIEST I HAVE BEEN dealing with here has ASSURED ME FOR OVER THREE WEEKS that I would speak with this expert here; reassuring me once a week when he sees me at the Food Net only: after I have donated three to four hours of my time. I don't know why he just can't have the contact call me. I have decided to go to Jum'uah on Friday at the Masjid and consult with the Imam there about the entire situation. AT LEAST I WILL HAVE AN OPEN DOOR there with my former relationship with the Islamic community and they DO DEAL with this kind of activity. Going to Confession and exposing my vulnerability and weakness was a major mistake which I am now very repented for. I have been to Confession twice and tried to do the right thing but apparently that is not good enough so maybe I need to explore another direction which I will do Friday. Father said that Islam was a FALSE religion. He did not like when I disagreed. ISLAM IS NOT A FALSE religion but an incomplete religion which denies the divinity of Christ. I need a lot of prayers because I need support right now and am going where I know I will find it on Friday.

Me1234 · #14 Jun 15, '11, 1:45 pm

Sounds like it's likely that there are demons harassing you. That can happen when you are starting to get closer to God. So in that way the harassment is a good indicator that something evil is so nervous about it that they actually do that. Or it could be because people you are close to do occultic stuff giving them ways in [tarot, Ouija board] Yes, too many Catholics are ignorant when it comes to demons and spiritual warfare.

http://saint-mike.org/qa/sw/default.asp

This site is a my a catholic group that specializes in Spiritual Warfare. You'll get true info from here.

Check out the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance also: http://www.saintpiocenter.org/selfhelp/sevensteps.asp

Here is a link to a prayer to say named Hedge Prayer for Protection of Household
http://saint-mike.org/warfare/library/?p=407

Bedtime Protection Prayer

In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, strengthened by the intercession of the Immaculate Virgin Mary, Mother of God, of Blessed Michael the Archangel, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and all the Saints and Angels of Heaven, and powerful in the holy authority of the name His Name, I subject my mind and my dreams only to the work of the Holy Spirit. I ask you Lord to bind up all powers of darkness and forbid them to work in my dreams or any part of my subconscious while I sleep. Amen.

Check out http://saint-mike.org/warfare/library/?page_id=193 for other applicable prayer. And remember you are not alone. God is omnipotent all-seeing so keep on asking for his help and he'll be there.

Young1970 · #15 Jun 15, '11, 2:40 pm

Shalom! Thank you for the advice. I am just very angry because the priest I have been in contact with admitted he is not comfortable with the expert who is the Exorcist for Lincoln diocease. I asked Father to meet with me and the expert and he has been reluctant since then. Father said the contact is a very holy man but is not one of his personal priest friends and seemed very uncomfortable with discussing the meeting. I can understand Father D. being uncomfortable with this contact but it is NOT FAIR TO ME to deny me the opportunity to get some spiritual support from this expert. NOW I AM FORCED to find the answers somewhere else when the expert is located in my small city here. IS THAT FAIR? I do not want to go back to the Islamic community but this is leaving me practically NO CHOICES here: I am living in the most TRADITIONAL diocease in the USA: There are no female or girl servers ALLOWED per the bishop! I do not think I will find much other help from another Catholic Church here. I have contacted about five well-know Healing and Deliverance priests from around the USA to see if they can offer me some suggestions before I seek out the Islamic community once again because everytime I get involved with the Islamic community I am playing "with fire".