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Old Jul 10, '11, 6:35 am
warpspeedpetey warpspeedpetey is offline
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Default Re: Having trouble using evidence to confirm the Church

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......Arguments need to be put forth that debunk the materialism, whether in itself, or by proving that the materialism can't work (the five ways are good for this) before the God-concept can make any inroads whatsoever, on a purely intellectual level.
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Empirical/verification/falsification statements, are self refuting logical contradictions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-refuting_idea

Verification- and falsification-principles

The statements "statements are meaningless unless they can be empirically verified" and "statements are meaningless unless they can be empirically falsified" are both claimed to be self-refuting on the basis that they can neither be empirically verified nor falsified.[29]


This one works well for me because anyone claiming to find fault with the Faith on these grounds has to justify their use of a logical contradiction to do so, an impossible task. The cognitive dissonance caused by such an easy invalidation of their core beliefs makes for some interesting emotional outbursts. lol
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