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Old Aug 11, '11, 9:58 pm
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Question Rosary vs. Divine Mercy Chaplet

The rosary may be the most revered and widely practiced form of spirituality in the Catholic Church outside the sacraments. For centuries in every culture, country and parish it is prayed all the time. Our Lady of Fatima emphasized strongly, "pray the rosary." The whole Fatima phenomenon has been elevated to a high level of worldwide importance as an Apostolate. Pope John Paul further endorsed Fatima by consecrating the world (and Russia) to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. A few years later, communism in that country crumbled, not the first victory in history for the rosary! No doubt Mary is our Mother, and the rosary is a powerful prayer and also a good means to grow spiritually.

However, I'm a bit confused by our Lord's apparitions to St. Faustina only about a few decades after Fatima. He was very clear about wanting people to pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet and also instructed her to have the picture made. Interestingly, Pope John Paul is also interwoven with this story from early on, being bishop when St. Faustina's cause was presented and such. He was an advocate of "Divine Mercy" and he promoted the chaplet (which had been suppressed earlier in the century) and elevated Faustina to Sainthood. He also instituted a new feast, Divine Mercy Sunday.

So, in the 20th century we have 2 seemingly (from human eyes) unrelated events, one involving the Mother of God in a most dramatic fashion (miracle of the sun, visions of hell, little children, etc) that promoted the rosary (and even stressed this more later, to Sr. Lucia with the introduction of the First Saturday Devotions in 1925). And the other actually involving divine intervention in Poland.

So, which is "better" to pray, the rosary or DMC? Does it matter? Is teh DMC the "new rosary"? Or are we supposed to say both, and how often?

Why would our Lord have all these revelations going on over this specific prayer to one woman, when Our Lady already created a worldwide furor by her appearance a very short time before? I know we can only speculate, but it seems strange.

I asked a priest once, if I had to choose, should I say the DMC or the rosary? Without hesitation, he gave the traditional Catholic answer you would expect: the rosary. But is not a prayer literally dictated by Our Lord Himself superior to any other, even the rosary?

I realize I am not asking a clear, specific question, but looking at two Church-endorsed (even encouraged) apparitions and trying to understand the connection between the two. What should be our attitudes toward these prayers in this perspective?

Any thoughts or ideas or insights...? Thanks!
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Old Aug 11, '11, 10:18 pm
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I pray the Rosary and Divine Mercy Chaplet every night, along with the SAINT GERTRUDE Chaplet. I'm not that holy of a man. I just need all the help I can get.
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Old Aug 12, '11, 12:34 am
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Prayers are for the spiritual growth of the soul. (by the word Prayer, here I mean the ones which are done by laity. Holy Mass & Other Sacraments are not included in this)

And the different prayer forms are for helping a troubled soul to have a conversation with the God. Since a soul which has natural tendency towards sin, may not have direct experience of the God during the prayer in this world. So these prayer forms are to help the soul to concentrate on God in an organised way.

While reciting Rosary, we are praying to God with our Holy Mother Mary. It's indeed helpful for the troubled soul, and is definitely for the praise of God & his plan. (This divine plan to send his only Son for saving the World.)

The Divine Mercy Chaplet is another prayer form, where you, as a sinner trying to take refuge in the Mercy of Christ. In my understanding Jesus asked Sr.Faustina to spread the word about his Devine Mercy, so that the much troubled souls in this world, and who have offended God more severely than ever, don't be destroyed by distress (thinking about the Just Judgement of Jesus). He was asking St.Faustina to speak the world about the Divine Mercy, and have a day dedicated for the Divine Mercy, so that souls be returned to God.

Through the Rosary, we are requesting to our Divine Mother to present our prayers to Jesus Christ / and to pray to God for our needs. Indeed Mother Mary is a compassionate mother, as she forced Jesus to perform the miracle during the Marriage in Kana. (Nobody in that house, would have ever asked her to help out during that difficult situation, as in their eyes she was just a widow of a poor Carpenter.) She, knowing their situation, forced Jesus to perform the miracle. (Jesus tried to tell her that it is not HIS time yet, to perform the miracles, but that didn't stop the compassionate Mary.)

So these prayers are all of different forms to raise our souls to the presence of God. (though we may not feel it likewise always.) Once the soul is so pure, (I guess) there would be no need for these prayer forms, as the soul will always be in presence of the God. And the soul can just recite "Halleluya" like the souls/angels in heaven do in the presence of God.

I do recite DMC prayer for the souls of Purgatory, and Rosary for myself. I feel it's more suited for the respective purposes. Ultimately it's just ones' personal preference.

(My humble thoughts..)
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Old Aug 12, '11, 2:27 am
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Personally, when I think of the history of the two sets of apparitions, I can't help but correlate them with the world events that were fomenting at the time--the rise of communism, and the rise of national socialism and fascism. The early 20th century was a time period of some of the most horrible and merciless events on an unprecedented scale in human history. I'm sure that both Mary and Our Lord knew the world was going to need all the help it could get, hence two very powerful and very (for want of a better term) "user friendly" forms of prayer.
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Old Aug 12, '11, 3:40 am
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So, which is "better" to pray, the rosary or DMC? Does it matter? Is the DMC the "new rosary"? Or are we supposed to say both, and how often?

It is not obligatory for a Catholic to say either the rosary or DMC; we can pray either or both or neither. If we choose to pray either or both how often is up to us.

The two liturgical prayers of the Church are Holy Mass and the Liturgy of the Hours - Divine Office. We are bound to attend Mass every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation unless we have a sufficient reason. Priests and consecrated religious have to pray the LOTH every day and the laity are also encouraged to pray it.
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Old Aug 12, '11, 4:00 am
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Originally Posted by Lady Marchmain View Post
So, which is "better" to pray, the rosary or DMC? Does it matter? Is teh DMC the "new rosary"? Or are we supposed to say both, and how often?

there is no such thing as better or worse
they are both private devotions
they are both indulgenced if prayed in community at designated times
pray whichever you like, whenever you like

why do you (meaning all who ask such questions about the relative merits of various prayers and devotions) insist in seeing Our Lady in competition with Jesus, Jesus in competition with the Holy Spirit, and one devotion or saint in competition with another? Meditate on the true meaning of the Mystical Body of Christ and upon the meaning of the word "catholic" as in "universal."

Above all if you are having such conflicts read the actual messages, from official Vatican sources (not wackadoo websites) of apparitions, locutions and occasions when these devotions were given to the Church and see the similarities and essential simplicity and uniformity of those messages: grace, the call to conversion and penitence, the stress on mercy and above all love of God for his children.
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Old Aug 12, '11, 12:40 pm
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Just because we have aircraft carriers, does that mean we can't have nuclear submarines, too? One doesn't take away from the other. It's good to have both prayers in your spiritual arsenal. Not all devotions appeal to all people, so arguing over the rosary vs. the Divine Mercy Chaplet is sort of like arguing over having a St. Benedict medal vs. the Miraculous Medal on your keychain. You're not required to have either. Some people will choose one; others will choose the other; some will go for both; others will go for neither.

The rosary is kind of like a ladder to heaven. St. Dominic had a vision of people climbing to heaven on the rosary. St. Francis had a vision of two ladders to heaven: a steep ladder that led to Jesus, and an easier ladder that led to Jesus through Mary. According to the story, Jesus told St. Francis, "Tell your sons to come by the other ladder."

The Divine Mercy chaplet, on the other hand, is all about invoking Jesus as a Merciful Savior, rather than a Just Judge; about uniting ourselves with and meditating on Jesus' passion and death; about gaining innumerable graces in this life and the next through the merits of his sufferings.

When recited with love and attention, both prayers have the capacity to give access to a treasure trove of graces. But just because the opportunity exists doesn't mean anyone has to take advantage of it. It's totally up to you to decide whether one, both, either, or neither is appealing enough to incorporate into your own spiritual life.
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Old Aug 12, '11, 12:42 pm
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Pray them both. (I do)
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Old Aug 12, '11, 12:50 pm
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I pray them both throughout the day.

Very powerful prayers.

God bless,
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Old Aug 12, '11, 1:01 pm
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There is no "vs.", the prayers are complimentary. I pray the Rosary every day and the Divine Mercy chaplet in random, unspecific bursts.
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Old Aug 12, '11, 9:06 pm
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The important thing is to pray with trust, to know that they will keep their promises.
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Old Aug 13, '11, 4:55 am
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you do know you can be a completely obedient observant Catholic with a deep and rich prayer life and neve pray either the rosary or chaplet. the are optional private devotions each of which has value for those who use it because it emphasizes aspects of Christ.
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Old Aug 13, '11, 7:53 am
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There is no “either or” between the Rosary and the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.
Rosary, though contains repetitive “Hail Mary”, is actually pointing to Jesus. Mary always points us to Jesus, never to herself. When we pray the Rosary, we ask our Mother Mary to intercede for us.

The Chaplet of Divine Mercy is addressing to our Heavenly Father directly. We pray to the Father, ask for his mercy for the sake of his beloved son our Lord Jesus Christ’s sorrowful passion. Jesus intercedes for us to his Father.

Our Catholic faith is very rich with many different prayers and devotions. They are all good. I pray both Rosary and Chaplet daily.
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