Planned Parenthood: Our Lady of Guadalupe = pro-choice???

[Ani Ibi]

Originally Posted by Sgt Sweaters

Planned Parenthood's latest scheme to influence the Hispanic community. Apparently they've made prayer cards for Our Lady of Guadalupe, praying for the "right to choose"!

Well tough on them. Last Saturday we marched behind the Knights of Columbus to the Allan Gardens abortion clinic while saying the Rosary. The Knights were carrying a huge painting of Our Lady of Guadalupe. Our Lady will pray that Her Son gives the hispanics the grace to choose Life.

Please give us the diocese, the bishop, and his email or phone number. And he can give up using his phone or computer for the next few days while we deluge him with protest.

[antiaphrodite]

what a DIABOLICALLY clever plan.

[Lonevoice]

The depths that the pro-death crowd will sink to never ceases to amaze me.

O Maria, sine labe concepta,
Ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.
(O Mary, conceived without sin.....)

[Isilzha]

How disgusting. My parents pray outside an abortion clinic once a month and they bring our statue of OL Guadalupe there so that as women walk in they can see her. I don't know if it makes a difference, but I am glad they bring the statue with.

[MiddleBear]

Planned Parenthood blasphemies our Lord through blasphemies on His Mothers Immaculate Heart.

Check out the following site.

Pray the daily rosary for conversions

Rosary Center
Dominican Fathers
HEADQUARTERS OF
THE ROSARY CONFRATERNITY

http://www.rosary-center.org/

The Fatima Message

Fatima is a call from the Mother of God for a renewed fidelity to penance and prayer, which basically is the message of the Gospel. Too, it brings out the desire of Our Lord that His Mother be better known, loved and venerated through devotion to her Immaculate Heart

http://www.rosary-center.org/fatima.htm

WHY FIVE SATURDAYS?
It is sometimes asked why Our Lady asked for Communions of reparation on five first Saturdays, instead of some other number. Our Blessed Lord answered that question when He appeared to Sr. Lucia May 29, 1930.

He explained that it was because of five kinds of offenses and blasphemies against the Immaculate Heart of Mary, namely:
1. blasphemies against her Immaculate Conception,
2. against her perpetual virginity,
3. against the divine and spiritual maternity of Mary,
4. blasphemies involving the rejection and dishonoring of her images, and
5. the neglect of implanting in the hearts of children a knowledge and love of his Immaculate Mother

[UKcatholicGuy]

All,

Please read my post #12. Planned Parenthood is not [directly] involved in this . . . it's CATHOLICS FOR A FREE CHOICE!!

That is even more disgusting in my opinion. We should expect as much from a secular anti-God organization like Planned Parenthood, but from a group that CLAIMS to be a legitimate opinion within the Church???!!!

BLASPHEMY!!

[Nikkie]

Really disgusting!

[Ani Ibi]

Originally Posted by UKcatholicGuy

it's CATHOLICS FOR A FREE CHOICE!!

Someone look up the bishop in whose diocese this occurs and his email address. Let's have this group removed from communion. It is about time the Church started getting smaller.

[Lisa4Catholics]

Originally Posted by Ani Ibi

Someone look up the bishop in whose diocese this occurs and his email address. Let's have this group removed from communion. It is about time the Church started getting smaller.

I agree ANI this same "group" is promoting "condoms for life"
http://www.condoms4life.org/

[UKcatholicGuy]

Originally Posted by Lisa4Catholics

I agree ANI this same "group" is promoting "condoms for life"
http://www.condoms4life.org/

DISGUSTING!!

THEY'RE SITE'S MOTTO IS "GOOD CATHOLICS USE CONDOMS"!!!!!!!!

Have these people been officially excommunicated yet???????

We need to pray for their souls, because warping the teachings of Christ by promoting it's GOOD to use condoms if you're Catholic is a fast track to . . . you know.

[Traditional Ang]

Originally Posted by UKcatholicGuy

All,

Please read my post #12. Planned Parenthood is not [directly] involved in this . . . it's CATHOLICS FOR A FREE CHOICE!!

That is even more disgusting in my opinion. We should expect as much from a secular anti-God organization like Planned Parenthood, but from a group that CLAIMS to be a legitimate opinion within the Church???!!!

BLASPHEMY!!

Uk CatholicGuy:

Here's the Story and the Link (repeated from your post #12):

'Free Choice' Catholics Issue Abortion Prayer Card

by Fr. Michael Reilly - Monday, May 9, 2005

The dissident group Catholics for a Free Choice is deceptively using a popular devotional image to promote abortion among Hispanics Catholics, asking Our Lady of Guadalupe to "keep abortion legal."

The image of Our Lady of Guadalupe is popular among Hispanics because Mary appeared as an Aztec to an Indian convert named Juan Diego in Mexico in 1531. Her image was miraculously emblazoned on his tilma (an Indian garment) as a sign to the bishop to build a Church in Mary's honor. The tilma bearing her image is still hanging in the Church today.

Our Lady of Guadalupe is the patroness of the Americas, but more pointedly, she is also the patroness of the unborn. Before the arrival of Spanish missionaries, the Aztecs were offering as many as ten thousand young people each year in human sacrifice to the serpent god.

The miracle engendered the conversion of eight to nine million Aztecs which effectively ended the practice of human sacrifice in Mexico. Indeed, Guadalupe is not a place, but rather Aztec for "she who crushed the serpent." So Catholics throughout the United States pray that Our Lady of Guadalupe will end the practice of human sacrifice in America known as aboron.

Polls have consistently shown Hispanics to be aggressively Catholic and pro-life and that they are trending towards the Republicans because of social issues.

Hopefully, Hispanics will not be deceived by the religious trickery of Catholics for a Free Choice, which misrepresents the Catholic Church's position on abortion.

http://newsmax.com/archives/articles...8/224749.shtml

You're right, this is absolutely obsene and sacrilegious. May God have mercy on them and convert them, because, "God desires not the death of sinners, but that they should turn from their wickedness and live."

And, Pray that the Hispanics they're targetting arte not led astray by this cynical tactic.

If a Bishop is involved, I think Ani Ibi's idea of informing him of his error, along with a CC to the POPE (That means - Keep it polite but direct and talk about his role as shepherd and the salvation of souls) is the right thing to do.

Blessed are they who act to save God's Little Ones, Michael

[Traditional Ang]

Originally Posted by Ani Ibi

Someone look up the bishop in whose diocese this occurs and his email address. Let's have this group removed from communion. It is about time the Church started getting smaller.

Ani, Speaking of the Church getting smaller:

Here's the LINK for the "Pro-Baby-Slaughter" Catholics:

From the HomePage http://www.all.org/crusade.htm Click
Full listing of pro-abortion Catholics in Congress!

CRUSADE FOR THE DEFENSE OF OUR CATHOLIC CHURCH

Pro-abortion Catholics in Congress

The following lawmakers appear in American Life League's Jan. 24 newspaper ad, along with the reasons they were included in this listing. "NARAL" is the organization formerly known as the National Abortion Rights Action League (currently it calls itself "NARAL Pro-Choice America"). "PP" is the Planned Parenthood Action Fund.

http://www.all.org/crusade.htm

NARAL follows votes on Abortion and related Issues only. PP follows votes on Access to Contraception, esp. forcing pharmacists to distribute Artificial Contraception and schools to hand out condoms to students.

I would campaign against those politicians whose NARAL scores are consistently above 60%, and their PP's are consistently at or above 80%. Those politicians are simply more dedicated to the Pro-Abortion cause than those whose NARAL Score ? 30% and whose PP Score ? 70%.

These lower scoring politicians might well be the subject of CATECHESIS by their local Bishops and e-mail writers. In some cases, changing a couple votes makes these people Pro-Life! They include:

Foley, Mark (R FL 16) - NARAL = 30%, PP = NA
Kanjorski, Paul (D PA 11) - NARAL = 10%, PP = 27%
Langevin, James (D RI 2) - NARAL = NA, PP = NA
Marshall, James (D GA 3) - NARAL = NA, PP = 33%
McNulty, Michael (D NY 21) - NARAL = NA, PP = 44%
Michaud, Michael (D ME 2) - NARAL = 10%, PP = 33%
Murkowski, Lisa (R AK) - NARAL = NA, PP = 40%
Obey, David (D WI 7) - NARAL = 30%, PP = 64%
Pascrell, Bill (D NJ 20) - NARAL = 30%, PP = 70%
Ryan, Tim (D OH 17) - NARAL = 10%, PP = 33%

Salazar, Ken (D CO) - NARAL = NA, PP = NA
Schwarz, Joe (R MI 7) - NARAL = NA, PP = NA
Shaw, E. Clay (R FL 22) - NARAL = 10%, PP = 36%

The first thing they'll need to be convinced of is that ROE V. WADE is a BAD LAW in the same way that Dred Scott was a BAD LAW!

They have to be convinced that the logic is just as hellish, convoluted and wrong, and that both laws do the same thing by making one set of Human Beings somehow Subhuman or "less than human", and by saying that the Property rights of ONE (in ROE V. WADE of the mother, in Dred Scott of the Slave Owner) trump the rights of the OTHER (in ROE V. WADE, the Right to Life of the Baby, in Dred Scott, the Right to Liberty of the Black Slave). and, Even Politicians have to realize that that is just wrong and immoral and can't allowed to be legal let alone allowed to be called "A Constitutional right".

The next part, the duty of politicians to fight and change BAD and IMMORAL LAWS will be harder. The Tribunal of Nuremburg established that as a fact, and that "because it's the law" is a insufficient and a poor excuse for doing wrong or knowingly allowing wrong to be done in one's name.

Catholic politicians also need to be reminded that they belong to a Church that's founded by a risen Lord who has the right to make certain demands of them. If they really don't like it and refuse to conform their voting records and public statements to the demands of that risen Lord (esp. in the case of those who got NARAL and or PP Scores = 100%), maybe they ought to be invited out.

I don't think the ones are listed are necessarily scandals - I think They're confused. But, I do think that 50+ "Catholic" Politicians who consistently rack up scores of 100% from NARAL and PP are scandals and shames on the Church, and so are the Bishops who order Priests to give them Communion. In those cases, I think excommunicating the politicians and "disvesting" the bishops who cooperate with their evil is the appropriate thing to do.

It's better for a Diocese NOT to have a Bishop than to have one who is a "Hireling". The Pope can always send a member of the Curia if there is need for Episcopal oversight, but he can't remedy a Bishop who's allowing that.

Blessed are they who act to save God's Little Ones. Michael

[antiaphrodite]

Originally Posted by Ani Ibi

It is about time the Church started getting smaller.

[jjwilkman]

moderator, i think this thread should be killed

[Lisa4Catholics]

Originally Posted by jjwilkman

moderator, i think this thread should be killed

Why do you think the thread should be killed? People are trying to use our Lady to promote evil,why would you want to stop the thread we are trying to take action against this.