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Old Oct 23, '11, 12:34 am
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Question Why does Mass on a Saturday evening cover the Sunday obligation?

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Default Re: Why does Mass on a Saturday evening cover the Sunday obligation?

Thank you for the link there

I am glad that those of us who have jobs that require us to work on Sunday either out of our own economic necessity (either supporting self and/or a family) and/or the nature of our work (farming, law enforcement, most medical professions, technical support, etc) can go to Mass on Saturday evening to fulfill that precept of the church to attend Mass on Sundays.

I was not completely aware of the servile work things growing up but I have learned about them as an adult. I try not to do much on Sunday even though I must work on Sundays to support myself & the nature of my job that must be staffed 24 X 7.
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Default Re: Why does Mass on a Saturday evening cover the Sunday obligation?

The Catholic Church is the authority that imposed a Sunday obligation to attend mass, and the Catholic Church is the authority that amended this this obligation so that a Saturday evening mass would count as well.
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Technically, I the Sabbath is from Sundown to Sundown, i.e. Saturday evening to Sunday evening.

On Easter we moved the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday because JESUS rose from the dead on Sunday. We no longer call it the Sabbath, it is Sunday, but we are still bound by the 3rd commandment to observe the Sunday as a day of rest.

The Sabbath that was moved began on Friday Sundown and continued through Saturday Sundown. That was why the burial of JESUS was delayed, as the Sabbath or Sundown was rapidly approaching on Good Friday when JESUS died, and there was insufficent time to comlpete HIS burial in accordance with the Jewish customs, so the plan was to return after the Sabbath, which would be early Sunday morning and complete the burial protocol - but HE was risen.

So, in moving to Sunday, we did not change the hours of the day of rest, it still begins on Sundown Saturday, which would allow for a Saturday evening worship for a Sunday.
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Technically, I the Sabbath is from Sundown to Sundown, i.e. Saturday evening to Sunday evening.

On Easter we moved the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday because JESUS rose from the dead on Sunday. We no longer call it the Sabbath, it is Sunday, but we are still bound by the 3rd commandment to observe the Sunday as a day of rest.

The Sabbath that was moved began on Friday Sundown and continued through Saturday Sundown. That was why the burial of JESUS was delayed, as the Sabbath or Sundown was rapidly approaching on Good Friday when JESUS died, and there was insufficent time to comlpete HIS burial in accordance with the Jewish customs, so the plan was to return after the Sabbath, which would be early Sunday morning and complete the burial protocol - but HE was risen.

So, in moving to Sunday, we did not change the hours of the day of rest, it still begins on Sundown Saturday, which would allow for a Saturday evening worship for a Sunday.
We never "moved the Sabbath." The Sabbath is still on Saturdays. We celebrate the Resurrection that occurred on a Sunday.

The evening mass on Saturday fulfills the Sunday obligation because it begins after the vespers celebrated for Sunday.
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The Catholic Church is the authority that imposed a Sunday obligation to attend mass, and the Catholic Church is the authority that amended this this obligation so that a Saturday evening mass would count as well.
Yep. The Church makes the rules and the rule says Saturday evening counts.
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The quick answer is because the Church says so.

It all comes down to when the day starts. Starting at midnight is a feature of the Roman calendar. The Jewish Calendar starts the day at sunset so that the Sabbath runs from sunset of Friday until sunset on Saturday. The Greeks who made up much of the early Church also counted their days from sunset. The Christian Sabbath was moved back 24 hours, but was still reckoned from sunset of what we now call Saturday.

Armed with this knowledge, you'll find that the hours and days mentioned in the Gospels make a lot more sense. That's why we believe that Jesus rose on the third day.

The Celtic Church counted their days from sunset. When they united with the Roman Church at the Synod of Whitby, they changed to counting from midnight. The first day of the calendar was 1st November, the Feast of All Saints. An early abuse was to say that the Christian year ended at sunset on All Hallows' Eve and didn't hold sway again until midnight allowing a return to pagan religions for a few hours.
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We never "moved the Sabbath." The Sabbath is still on Saturdays. We celebrate the Resurrection that occurred on a Sunday.

The evening mass on Saturday fulfills the Sunday obligation because it begins after the vespers celebrated for Sunday.
Thank you for correcting my poor choice of words.
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