Another Terri Case?

[Lisa4Catholics]

Another 'Terri Schiavo' case? This Time the Victim is Not Claimed to be PVS
Scott Thomas, age 34, is in danger of being starved to death in Jacksonville, Florida; Family asks Randall Terry to help save his life.

To: National Desk

Contact: Randall Terry, 904-819-9450

JACKSONVILLE, Fl., June 16 /Christian Wire Service/-- On Friday, June 17, a press conference is to be held at the home of Pamela Patton, Scott Thomas' mother.

Press Conference Details---

When: 10:00 AM, Friday, June 17

Where: 2243 The Woods Dr. E., Jacksonville, Florida 32246

Who: Pamela Patton, Scott Thomas, and Randall Terry,

Why: On September 5, 2004, Scott Thomas suffered severe trauma to the head. This trauma required neurosurgery, and temporarily left Scott hospitalized and severely disabled. Scott's estranged wife told the hospital that Scott had tripped over his dog, and hit his head on the kitchen floor. However, the two neurosurgeons that worked on Scott told the family that his injuries were not consistent with that type of accident. Another neurologist has since examined Scott and seen his x-rays, and said the trauma is too severe to have occurred for a normal fall.

In mid-November, 2004, hospital staff spoke with Scott's mother, Pamela Patton, and told her that Scott's wife was planning to move Scott to a hospice where she would order his food removed.

They told her plainly: "If you do not get custody of your son, he will be dead in 4 to 10 days."

Ms. Patton went to court, and won temporary custody of her son. Her son has lived with her since Thanksgiving, and recently received seven weeks of therapy at Brooks Rehab. Scott can move both of his arms, as well as his feet and his toes. He raises his eyebrows or gives a "thumbs up" to say "yes;" and he sticks out his tongue to say "no." He is very engaging with his eyes and his facial expressions. There is no doubt that he is participating in what is going on around him.

At this point, Scott can whisper "mom," "yes," "eat," "no," and "thank you." (He can only whisper because he recently had his tracheotomy reversed, and his vocal cords are not yet healed.) While Scot is fed primarily through a feeding tube in his stomach, he also swallows. He eats yogurt, apple sauce, pudding and ice cream…with a smile.

Scott's Mother, Pamela Patton, was awarded temporary guardianship of her son because a State's Attorney told the judge that Eliza Thomas was under investigation for possibly assaulting her husband. The Police investigation is ongoing. No charges have been filed against her yet.

According to Ms. Patton, within three days of Scott's traumatic injury, his estranged wife had taken down all the photos of him in their home, and soon had a boyfriend spending the night with her. She is now dating another man, and has taken weekend trips with him. She signed over the title of his 1974 Dodge Road Runner (Valued at $30,000) to another one of her "friends." Police are also investigating this.

Scott's wife is seeking to regain custody of her husband, so that she can place him in a hospice and have him starved to death.

A hearing is planned for mid July which could determine Scott's fate.

Statement from Pamela Patton, Scott's Mother:

"In mid November when I was visiting Scott, 2 of the hospital staff (who knew that Liza was under suspicion for assaulting Scott) warned me: "Liza has called Hospice. They have agreed to take him. If you do not get immediate custody of Scott, he will be dead within 7 to 10 days."

"I immediately obtained an attorney, who got an emergency hearing, and explained to a Judge that Liza was under investigation by the States Attorney for Scott's injuries. The judge confirmed this with the States Attorney, and I was awarded temporary guardianship."

"At this moment, she is still seeking guardianship, and has made clear that she still plans on taking him to hospice in order to remove his nutrition. My son's life is in jeopardy, and we have asked Randall Terry to help fight for Scott's life.

We are asking that any person who knows of anything suspicious regarding Scott to contact our family immediately."

Statement from Randall Terry:

"On Sunday, May 22, 2005, I spent four hours with Scott Thomas and his mother, Pamela Patton. Scott was awake the entire time. He drank water and lemonade through a straw. He visually follows everything that is going on in the room, and is absolutely in tune with what is being discussed. He smiled at appropriate times; and he began to weep when we discussed the danger he was in. He mouthed 'yes' to me and 'thank you' just before I left.

"I told him, 'I'm going to blow a trumpet, to try and get the cavalry to come in and save you.' He looked me dead in the eye and gave me a 'thumbs up' with his left hand. It made me weep."

"To starve this young man to death would be nothing short of first-degree murder."
http://www.earnedmedia.org/sftj0616.htm

[Lisa4Catholics]

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[Mom of one]

Let's pray that Judge Greer is not going to be the judge on this one.

[Lisa4Catholics]

Originally Posted by Momofone

Let's pray that Judge Greer is not going to be the judge on this one.

I most certainly will Both in Florida Maybe his mom should take video of him and do it quick if this is put in front of Greer or any of those corrupt judges there he is doomed

[David_Paul]

This is so simple. You don't have to be Catholic or Protestant or Buddhist or Muslim to figure this out.

We are here. How we got here is a mystery. We should not kill those who are here with us.

[Lisa4Catholics]

Originally Posted by David_Paul

This is so simple. You don't have to be Catholic or Protestant or Buddhist or Muslim to figure this out.

We are here. How we got here is a mystery. We should not kill those who are here with us.

You are right I wish others realized that simple truth,God is the author of life and death and we continue to tread His ground

[Traditional Ang]

Originally Posted by Lisa4Catholics

I most certainly will Both in Florida Maybe his mom should take video of him and do it quick if this is put in front of Greer or any of those corrupt judges there he is doomed

Lisa:

I don't have any contact with Randall Terri, but this sounds like a pretty easy case if some questions can be answered:

Does Scott have any sort of ADVANCE DIRECTIVE which states his wishes? Could he be able to cooperate in doing one NOW?

If Scott doesn't have one, his parents can ask for the court to appoint AN INTERPRETER (I used to do this - I worked with clients who had severe Cerebral Palsy), someone the judge and the parents agree to who can make enough sense of Scott's signals that she can put tegether one page that represents how he wants to be taken care of and who he wants making the decisions if he can't communicate his wishes.

This way, Scott could LEGALLY appoint his parents to make the decisions regarding his MEDICAL CARE and prevent his estranged wife from trying to pull a Michael Schiavo. Yes. The judge would have to find Scott competent to do the document WITH ASSISTANCE (the ADA Mandates that Assistance be made available)!

Because this is a LEGAL CASE, one copy of the Adbvance Directive would be filed with the COURT, one with his appointed caregiviers (probably his parents), one with the hospital (for inclusion in his chart), and one with his Personal Physician (inclusion in that chart). That way, there would be little chance of anyone not doing what he wants.

I agree with the idea of assembling a few hours of video and making sure that the court orders Brain MRI'S, EEG'S and any other tests that would reveal Scott's precise condition. They would also aid in the finding of compitence to do the Advance directive WITH ASSISTENCE!

I believe this is imparitive, as this would block the evil designs of the wife, and might just save Scott's life.

Once that's done, assuming Scott understands that his wife will kill him and that he wants to live, and that he therefore names his parents as the named decision makers, his wife won't be able to do anything except ask why she didn't kill him when she had the chance.

If He is determined by the court to be incompetent of deciding who should provide his medical and at what level of treatment, his parents should apply for CONSERVATORSHIP over all of his medical, legal and financial matters and the Durable Power of Attorney over all of the same. That's what's done in California.

Once Courts has given them that on a more or less permenant basis, they tend to be loathe to hand that to someone else, esp. someone who will do the exact opposite of the first set of people.

And, the fact that he is NOT PVS, that he is able to express himself and that the estrange wife is contracting with a hospice to dehydrate him to death would weigh heavily in the decision.

If this is ongoing, and in the unlikely event that the case goes against the parents, I will begin to discuss the principals of Satyagraha "Moral Blackmail" through NON-VIOLENT CONFRONTATION used by Mohatma Ghandi and then by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Has someone contacted Priests for Life? If this goes bad, it's going to get real ugly, because his estranged wife may be lacking in a conscience. and, Those of us who were involved in the Terri Schiavo case already know the Forces of Darkness have prepared it well.

Blessed are they who act to save God's Little Ones. Michael

[Traditional Ang]

Originally Posted by Lisa4Catholics

You are right I wish others realized that simple truth,God is the author of life and death and we continue to tread His ground

Irrefutable proof that I am a SLOW TYPIST.

Hopefully, what I had to say will be worth it.

David_Pul, what you had to say is so self-evident that only a College Professor or an Attorney could be guaranteed to miss it.

Goodnight, and...

Blessings to all. Michael

[Zooey]

This needs a lot of prayer....
I am glad that Randall Terry is right on the case. I agree that since Scott has some ability to communicate, there needs to be some way that he can get put in his family's care, so that he can get the treatment that he needs!!!

[MaggieOH]

I have known about the Scott Thomas case for at least one month. I can fill in some detail about what has already been done.

First of all, the mere fact that the mother was awarded temporary custody in the first place is an indication that the judge in the case is not doing a George Greer. The mother has an equal chance of remaining the guardian. A smart lawyer can make a lot of her intentions to kill him without his permission.

Second, the doctors and staff are cooperating with Scott's mother and they will pull out all stops to save his life.

Third, there has been a video done by professional photographers to be presented to the court.

The original case date has been delayed because Scott's mother has changed lawyers. Also Scott has been examined by Dr. Hammesfahr.

Please pray for Scott, and pray especially for a positive outcome in his case so that his wife will not get guardianship.

[Lisa4Catholics]

Originally Posted by MaggieOH

I have known about the Scott Thomas case for at least one month. I can fill in some detail about what has already been done.

First of all, the mere fact that the mother was awarded temporary custody in the first place is an indication that the judge in the case is not doing a George Greer. The mother has an equal chance of remaining the guardian. A smart lawyer can make a lot of her intentions to kill him without his permission.

Second, the doctors and staff are cooperating with Scott's mother and they will pull out all stops to save his life.

Third, there has been a video done by professional photographers to be presented to the court.

The original case date has been delayed because Scott's mother has changed lawyers. Also Scott has been examined by Dr. Hammesfahr.

Please pray for Scott, and pray especially for a positive outcome in his case so that his wife will not get guardianship.

Thanks Maggie We are praying

[abcdefg]

he must have been hit with a blunt object by his wife

[Lisa4Catholics]

Originally Posted by abcdefg

he must have been hit with a blunt object by his wife

That is certainly what it sounds like and she sure doesn't need to get custody of him

[iwonder]

Originally Posted by Lisa4Catholics

That is certainly what it sounds like and she sure doesn't need to get custody of him

I'm not sure the issue for us is whether or not she hit him with a blunt object. The reason he is in this condition is also not our issue. Our issue shuld be entirely one of: should his feeding tube be removed? No. This is what we must concentrate on. All the rest is a way to entrench our energies in argument. Our energies are better served upholding his right to life.

[Traditional Ang]

Originally Posted by iwonder

I'm not sure the issue for us is whether or not she hit him with a blunt object. The reason he is in this condition is also not our issue. Our issue shuld be entirely one of: should his feeding tube be removed? No. This is what we must concentrate on. All the rest is a way to entrench our energies in argument. Our energies are better served upholding his right to life.

IWonder:

Agreed!

That's why I'm having to modify what I said last night.

It turns out that in most states, if Scott creates an Advance Directive using an Assistive Interpreter, his wife would be able to challenge the Directive on the basis that it was created using assistance to communicate his wishes.

According to most state laws, Stephen Hawkins, the world famous nuclear physisicist, is not competent to make decisions regarding his own health care or who shall make those decisions, because he is not "...of sound body", and requires the assistive devices to communicate and get around. These laws mean that some hateful person could decide to remove whatever feeding assistance he resently receives, and if that person is his guardian, there's not a thing he could do about it, because, as far as the law is concerned, the world's greatest physicist is not competent to ask for a glass of water.

In Scott's case, somebody will need to prepare a legal challenge to Florida's version of that crazy law on the grounds that it violates the 14th amendment rights to Equal protect and the Federal American with Disabilities Act.

What I'm saying is that Scott's wife might be able to get the Advance Directive thrown out, and the only way to get it reinstated will be to successfully challenge that specific law and the provisions that require that people be "...Of sound mind and body" in order for any legal documents they create (including Advance Directives) to be accepted.

Call this a, "Heads up!"

I'd hate to see Scott lose because of a law that's stacked against the disabled, and I'd hate to see various versions of that law used to EUTHANIZE/SLAUGHTER hundreds of Severely Disabled people nationwide.

We need to OVERTURN that law, and then we need to LEGISLATE IT OUT OF EXISTENCE!

Who's willing to list what the specific laws are in their states and to contact their State Legislatures (and to give us the information)?

Blessed are they who act to save God's Little Ones. Michael