Schiavo Burial Provokes New Fight - Page 4

TPJCatholic · #46 Jun 21, '05, 3:10 pm

Who trivialized it?

Mom of one · #47 Jun 21, '05, 3:18 pm

This battle will not be over any time soon. TPJCatholic, for you to feel the way you do is OK. I get the idea that you are burnt. But please don't tell us that we have to stop. This case was based on lie after lie, like Roe vs. Wade(Sarah Weddington and company claimed that their client was gang raped, for starters.) God gives each of us different talents, abilities, and battles to fight. In my opinion, this battle can be fought along side the abortion fight. It's all about respecting life. God made us, only He can take us. (Ever hear a momma say-"I brought you into this world; I can take you out!" ?) Only God decides when you are to meet Him.

Lisa4Catholics · #48 Jun 21, '05, 3:19 pm

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Who trivialized it?

" We must all look at this with the big picture in mind, not the small world of the Schindler family and the Schiavo's."Do you not understand that she was used to further the death agenda and normalize this?Terri was made a test case for them,and we do need to keep on searching and trying to expose the truth.If this was an "illegal murder" would you say these things???

TPJCatholic · #49 Jun 21, '05, 3:35 pm

momofone,

Truly, thank you for your concern, yet I am not the least bit burnt. I just feel that this is all a huge waste. I am not telling anyone to do anything, I am trying to convince them this is an utter waste.

Lisa4Catholics · #50 Jun 21, '05, 3:39 pm

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momofone,

Truly, thank you for your concern, yet I am not the least bit burnt. I just feel that this is all a huge waste. I am not telling anyone to do anything, I am trying to convince them this is an utter waste.

Statements like that really are uncalled for.

TPJCatholic · #51 Jun 21, '05, 3:43 pm

Lisa,

I see no difference between the legal killing of Terri, and the legal killing of 4,000 babies everyday. It makes no difference whether or not there were lies or deceptions (do you think lies and deceit is not used to convince women to kill their babies). What is wrong here is the law. We have legal killing of babies, and we have legal killing of people whom judges find unworthy (Terri). The rage you seem to feel is not going to be productive if it is aimed at Michael Schiavo...if our justice system made any sense then Michael would NOT have been able to legally kill his former wife, and if our justice system made any sense then mothers would not be able to kill their babies. Go after the state of Florida, go after Jeb Bush for not saving Terri, go after the judges, but you are wasting your time going after Micahel Schiavo, there is no payback there. My point is that we workers are VERY few, and we need to be wise about how we fight our battles. Go after those who have passed laws making murder legal...don't go after the people who simply use the laws.

TPJCatholic · #52 Jun 21, '05, 3:45 pm

Lisa,

I am sorry of my words offend you, truly I am. It is my opinioin that going after Michael Schiavo is an utter waste of time, that is not meant as an insult...it is my opinion. Please try to recall that we are on the same side, we just have different ways of looking at these issues. Once Terri was dead, Michael is free and clear no matter what we do--he is free and clear on earth, but not in Heaven.

Lisa4Catholics · #53 Jun 21, '05, 3:47 pm

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Lisa,

I see no difference between the legal killing of Terri, and the legal killing of 4,000 babies everyday. It makes no difference whether or not there were lies or deceptions (do you think lies and deceit is not used to convince women to kill their babies). What is wrong here is the law. We have legal killing of babies, and we have legal killing of people whom judges find unworthy (Terri). The rage you seem to feel is not going to be productive if it is aimed at Michael Schiavo...if our justice system made any sense then Michael would NOT have been able to legally kill his former wife, and if our justice system made any sense then mothers would not be able to kill their babies. Go after the state of Florida, go after Jeb Bush for not saving Terri, go after the judges, but you are wasting your time going after Micahel Schiavo, there is no payback there. My point is that we workers are VERY few, and we need to be wise about how we fight our battles. Go after those who have passed laws making murder legal...don't go after the people who simply use the laws.

I am active in all areas of pro-life,from before birth on and if you do not expose the flawed morality in the thinking of Micahel and the mothers that abort the laws will remain.Why do you think the MSM are twisting the autopsy results like a pretzal?

TPJCatholic · #54 Jun 21, '05, 4:51 pm

Lisa,

The MSM simply uses the Terri case to demonstrate to the world that many pro-lifer's are nutcases. We are helping the MSM make us look ridiculous by hanging onto a case that is over. Terri is dead, people do NOT want to revisit it...not even if there is proof of foul deeds. We will just come across as extremist nuts and we will weaken our chances of winning other battles. It is time to understand that sometimes we lose.

Mac6yver · #55 Jun 21, '05, 5:04 pm

It amazes me how so many of you proclaim to know the "truth" behind this case. Are those of you who believe Michael was not following his wifes wishes so arrogant that you can not admit he may have been telling the truth the entire time? I believe Michael was trying to fulfill his wifes wishes, but I acknowledge the possibility that I may be wrong. Can you not do the same?

Lisa4Catholics · #56 Jun 21, '05, 5:10 pm

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Lisa,

The MSM simply uses the Terri case to demonstrate to the world that many pro-lifer's are nutcases. We are helping the MSM make us look ridiculous by hanging onto a case that is over. Terri is dead, people do NOT want to revisit it...not even if there is proof of foul deeds. We will just come across as extremist nuts and we will weaken our chances of winning other battles. It is time to understand that sometimes we lose.

Okay, that means all of us lamenting over Roe V Wade are nutcases and look rediculous?I do not mind looking like a nut if sanity means to kill people or accepting the murder of the innocent because to rebel appears crazy.Mother Teresa of Calcutta said"We are not called upon to be successful butto be faithful"that is what the portrayed nutcases are trying to do.Today a man was convicted of killing 3 civil rights workers,I guess they should have let that alone as well,after all you can't bring them back

TPJCatholic · #57 Jun 21, '05, 5:10 pm

Mac6,

I am with you on that.

Mom of one · #58 Jun 21, '05, 5:15 pm

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It amazes me how so many of you proclaim to know the "truth" behind this case. Are those of you who believe Michael was not following his wifes wishes so arrogant that you can not admit he may have been telling the truth the entire time? I believe Michael was trying to fulfill his wifes wishes, but I acknowledge the possibility that I may be wrong. Can you not do the same?

If he was trying to fulfill his wife's wishes, why didn't he say something before he got the money? Why did he tell the court in the malpractice suit that he believed that Terri wanted to live? Sorry, but if he knew that Terri's wishes were to not live like this, then he lied to a court and gained that money fraudulently. He never said a word until after he got the money, money that was supposed to be used for Terri's care.

BTW, your name reminds me of Macgyver. Are you a fan of the show?

ElizabethJoy · #59 Jun 21, '05, 5:19 pm

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Are those of you who believe Michael was not following his wifes wishes so arrogant that you can not admit he may have been telling the truth the entire time?

The question is WHICH entire time?

Michael has told conflicting stories.

Lisa4Catholics · #60 Jun 21, '05, 5:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Mac6yver

It amazes me how so many of you proclaim to know the "truth" behind this case. Are those of you who believe Michael was not following his wifes wishes so arrogant that you can not admit he may have been telling the truth the entire time? I believe Michael was trying to fulfill his wifes wishes, but I acknowledge the possibility that I may be wrong. Can you not do the same?

Which version of the truth?Which one time she said it in front of his brother?Grandmas funeral or in front of the TV while watching a TV Movie?While he held his colapsed wife who was gasping for air why did he put her face down on the ground?Why did he wait til he got paid to decide to remember the 2 different versions of this conversation?