End Times Speculation XIV - Page 52

cjforJesus · #**766** Apr 19, '12, 5:33 am

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Originally Posted by Muzhik

cj, you'll find a timeline that discusses these events at this link. The link includes footnotes. The laicizations occurred in 1981and were overturned by the Apostolic Signatura Tribunal in 1993.

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I was referring to the one in 2009 of Fr Vlasic. It seems he was the spiritual advisor of the seers for a short time.Some say he requested it and other say it was to avoid the suspension imposed by the Congregation for the doctrine of the Faith.

Many people over the age of 50 or so with a fairly decent memory would have understood your subtle reference.It took me all of 2 seconds to draw it from my own muddled memory,lol.Of course i grew up in the TV generation sad to say, and I also can recall dozens of stupid jiingles and other useless info.

The one thing I did learn by googling it was who he was referring to.

cjforJesus · #**767** Apr 19, '12, 8:00 am

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Originally Posted by spauline

My wife's birthday and our engagement anniversary

Dearest beloved group members,

Today is April 18th, my wife's birthday, Linda, AND the date of our ENGAGEMENT 3 three years ago. We met and developed a close spiritual friendship since August of 2007, through a Padre Pio prayer group that she partly led. On September 11, 2008, we kissed for the first time not planning it.

We courted one another and on the Saturday before Divine Mercy Sunday, April 18th, 2009, in front of a large picture of the Divine Mercy Image in her home, we got engaged!!!

And many of her lady friends were there to rejoice with us!

And on October 10, 2009, we were wed at Holy Rosary Parish, the most orthodox Catholic Church in the Portland, OR area.

I am elated, and I have a total blessing in my life.

Please rejoice with Linda and I and pray a prayer for our continued love, commitment, and growth in virtue.

Love, Scott

Congratulations, Scott and many prayers for you and your lovely wife Linda.God bless

spauline · #**768** Apr 19, '12, 9:12 am

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Originally Posted by cjforJesus

Congratulations, Scott and many prayers for you and your lovely wife Linda.God bless

thank you, cj.

Megan7 · #**769** Apr 19, '12, 4:06 pm

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Originally Posted by DawnInTexas

Anyway...

Our youngest had surgery this morning. 20 years old. Chaste. Had to have 1 of her Fallopian Tubes removed, due to a mass (probably a blood vessel) that enlarged-at the end by the ovary and twisted, allowing blood to flow in-but not back out. She has been in a lot of pain. They thought it was her ovary, until they went in and looked. It was about the size of your fist! It was smashing everything around it.

She's somewhat upset, as you can imagine. Catholic Doctor said she can still have many children, just not from that side.

I'm off to go back and spend the night with her in hospital.

My baby.

+Jesus, I Trust in You!
Love, Dawn

Dear Dawn,

I am so sorry about your daughters situation, and so young!

I will keep you all in my prayers! Its nice that you were able to have a Catholic Doctor, and that she will be able to have children!

And by the way, I have had friends who were told that they could not have children, and today they have several without any medical help. So, even if they tell her she can't have any, never lose hope, because I have seen true miracles!

Hugs, prayers, blessings going your way!

Take gentle care of your baby & try to get some rest as well,

God Bless,
Pax,

Megan

Megan7 · #**770** Apr 19, '12, 4:12 pm

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Originally Posted by spauline

My wife's birthday and our engagement anniversary

Dearest beloved group members,

Today is April 18th, my wife's birthday, Linda, AND the date of our ENGAGEMENT 3 three years ago. We met and developed a close spiritual friendship since August of 2007, through a Padre Pio prayer group that she partly led. On September 11, 2008, we kissed for the first time not planning it.

We courted one another and on the Saturday before Divine Mercy Sunday, April 18th, 2009, in front of a large picture of the Divine Mercy Image in her home, we got engaged!!!

And many of her lady friends were there to rejoice with us!

And on October 10, 2009, we were wed at Holy Rosary Parish, the most orthodox Catholic Church in the Portland, OR area.

I am elated, and I have a total blessing in my life.

Please rejoice with Linda and I and pray a prayer for our continued love, commitment, and growth in virtue.

Love, Scott

Dear Scott,

Congrats to you & Linda!

And Happy Birthday to her as well!

Best of wishes, blessings, prayers going your way!

Cheers!
God Bless,
Pax,
Megan

spauline · #**771** Apr 19, '12, 5:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Megan7

Dear Scott,

Congrats to you & Linda!

And Happy Birthday to her as well!

Best of wishes, blessings, prayers going your way!

Cheers!
God Bless,
Pax,
Megan

thank you, Megan!

Muzhik · #**772** Apr 19, '12, 6:24 pm

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Originally Posted by DawnInTexas

Our youngest had surgery this morning. 20 years old. Chaste. Had to have 1 of her Fallopian Tubes removed, due to a mass (probably a blood vessel) that enlarged ... <snip> ...

She's somewhat upset, as you can imagine. Catholic Doctor said she can still have many children, just not from that side.

Well, as my father the doctor would say, there's a reason these things come in pairs. FWIW, at the risk of TMI, back in the early 1950s my father caught the mumps from one of his patients. Left him bedridden for about 3 weeks, and as often happens in adults, it affected one of his testes. The other one was fine, and he fathered three more children after that, including yours truly.

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I'm off to go back and spend the night with her in hospital.

Well, it's not quite mare watching, but at least you've had practice...

Megan7 · #**773** Apr 19, '12, 7:31 pm

Hi Muzhik,

Thanks so much for this explanation!

Now, I understand!
I always learn a lot with your detailed explanations, they are the best!!!

I hope you enjoyed your pie!

Great link by the way!

Blessings,
Pax,

Megan

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Originally Posted by Muzhik

I'm starting this at about 9AM; I don't know when I'll post it. With the end of Lent I've released my inner pie maker and I'm in the middle of making a traditional English tall meat pie, as described by Roald Dahl in "Danny the Champion of the World". (If you're interested, check out Cookrookery.)

To answer your questions: The controversial apparition in question is Medjugorje. (I can say that because I'm just answering your question, not promoting it.) You'll find this frequently in different Marian apparitions, where demonic forces attempt to claim responsibility for the activities. I'll let you decide why this would be.

As for the other questions, regardless of how they describe themselves, the Catholic Church considers all these organizations to be heretical religions. Freemasonry claims its origins in the masons who built Solomon's temple. Their mythology involves secret or hidden knowledge that was lost when the master mason at the time was killed when he refused to divulge these secrets to the uninitiated. While Freemasonry claims to be a simple brotherhood, it is in fact a gnostic religion. It involves a god ("The Master Builder") with different levels of esoteric knowledge that are revealed to members as they advance inside the organization (i.e., you'll hear someone described as "a 16th-level Mason"). While some members may claim to be Christian the idea of "secret knowledge" (gnosis) that can lead to "enlightenment" and a closer relationship to G_D is antithetical to Christianity, where the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross was sufficient for the salvation of all -- no secret knowledge required.

It is for this reason that the Church has forbidden any Catholic to be a member in any "secret society" such as the Masons or Templars. I should point out that "Freemasonry" and "Masonry" have similar roots but are subtly different. "Freemasonry" is generally European and is decidedly anti-Catholic. They view the Catholic Church as the enemy of enlightenment. By forbidding Catholics to be members, they are forbidding Catholics access to this secret knowledge that may lift them from the chains of bondage the Church has kept them in and give them the enlightenment they need to find salvation outside the Church, yada yada yada. "Masonry" tends to be an American version -- all the heresy without all the Catholic hatred.

Theosophy is an old heresy in new rags. In its modern form it attempts to take Eastern esoteric religions and blend them in ways to make them palatable to Western minds. This heresy is also one of gnosis, or gnosticism, where the human can, through your own intellect, come to an understanding of the divine.

The danger of these gnostic religions is: what happens when you master all the secret knowledge? Although not all of them go that far (most Masons I know would disagree with what I'm going to say), the great majority of them teach that mastering all the secret knowledge makes you "an ascended master", where this knowledge allows you to ascend to the level of a god.

"But the snake said to the woman: “You certainly will not die! God knows well that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, who know good and evil.” Genesis 3:4-5

This removes Jesus from His place as the Son of God and simply makes Him one of many "ascended masters", and usually not even the most advanced of them. (This is because He died before He could become any more advanced. This also removes the value and blessing of His Sacrifice, and turns it into a disappointment.)

As CJ noted, some of the new Freemasonry lodges (and Masonic lodges in America) are making use of theosophy in their teachings. In particular they are promoting the use of Kundalini. "Kundalini" means "coiled" and refers to a coil of energy that is wrapped around the lower base of the spine. In meditation, it is frequently pictured as a sleeping serpent, and has been described as "a residual power of pure desire," or libido (sexual) energy. Kundalini Yoga is a religion (although practitioners would deny describing it as that) which teaches you how to tap into that energy through the use of exercises, breathing, and chanting (prayer).

When you've tapped into your kundalini, you can become a channel for a "divine power" or "higher power" to communicate messages. Thus, we have different "ascended masters" communicating that they are responsible for the apparitions, events, and messages at Medjugorje, and also at Fatima and Lourdes. They have also claimed credit for a variety of things not recognized by the Church, such as the image of Jesus appearing in a tree, or some such.
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donsnow · #**774** Apr 20, '12, 1:36 am

:Good morning, all,

I need to get back into church and get my yard work and house work done. Please, pray for me.

God loves all of you, lurkers, too,
Don

Muzhik · #**775** Apr 20, '12, 9:31 pm

Don, praying for you.

I've been meaning to post this link for a week, but kept getting distracted:

WAR THIS SUMMER? Israel TV network reports “the moment of truth is near.”

If this is the case, then I've got some ideas, based on my belief that dates in Jewish history "echo" and that the enemies of Israel chose certain dates to send messages related to history. The earliest date would be May 27, which is Shavu'ot, or Pentacost, which is also the anniversary of the Giving of the Torah from G_D to Moses. However, I think that's a little too soon, and after the Yom Kippur War of 1972 Jews watch out for any possible attacks on major religious feasts.

A better date is July 7. This is 17 Tamuz, which is the beginning of "The Three Weeks". Twice in Jewish history the walls of Jerusalem have been breached by invaders on this date; both times three weeks later the walls guarding the Temple fell on 9 Av (July 28). These dates are much more likely. For one thing, they symbolize the crushing of Jewish nationhood, as both times the Jews were carried off into captivity. For another, "Tamuz" is actually the name of a Persian goddess and is also a month in the Persian calendar. The Jews picked this name up during their captivity and used it in their own calendar. For a third thing, "Tamuz" was the name of the nuclear reactor that the Israelis destroyed almost 15 years ago. It is almost too much symbolism for the Iranian leaders to pass up.

donsnow · #**776** Apr 21, '12, 1:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Muzhik

Don, praying for you.

I've been meaning to post this link for a week, but kept getting distracted:

WAR THIS SUMMER? Israel TV network reports “the moment of truth is near.”

If this is the case, then I've got some ideas, based on my belief that dates in Jewish history "echo" and that the enemies of Israel chose certain dates to send messages related to history. The earliest date would be May 27, which is Shavu'ot, or Pentacost, which is also the anniversary of the Giving of the Torah from G_D to Moses. However, I think that's a little too soon, and after the Yom Kippur War of 1972 Jews watch out for any possible attacks on major religious feasts.

A better date is July 7. This is 17 Tamuz, which is the beginning of "The Three Weeks". Twice in Jewish history the walls of Jerusalem have been breached by invaders on this date; both times three weeks later the walls guarding the Temple fell on 9 Av (July 28). These dates are much more likely. For one thing, they symbolize the crushing of Jewish nationhood, as both times the Jews were carried off into captivity. For another, "Tamuz" is actually the name of a Persian goddess and is also a month in the Persian calendar. The Jews picked this name up during their captivity and used it in their own calendar. For a third thing, "Tamuz" was the name of the nuclear reactor that the Israelis destroyed almost 15 years ago. It is almost too much symbolism for the Iranian leaders to pass up.

Hi, Muzhik,

Thanks for your informative post.

I really can't understand why the Jew haters and other people who hate God's people expect the Jews to offer their throats meekly to be slashed by the hateful people. I think it's quite reasonable for Israel to do whatever is necessary to disable Iran, again.

I view war as an atrocity. So, I view Iran's saber rattling against Israel as an abuser's bullying.

God loves you,
Don

Muzhik · #**777** Apr 21, '12, 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by donsnow

I really can't understand why the Jew haters and other people who hate God's people expect the Jews to offer their throats meekly to be slashed by the hateful people.

I remember reading once that nothing enraged Apaches more than having a victim fight back. The idea of someone actually resisting them was unthinkable. There was an article in a newspaper a few years back about how the Palestinians in Gaza would shell the Israelis, then take their children to the hospitals in Israel. The Palestinians seemed to find no incongruities in these acts. It only begins to make sense when you understand the concept of dhimitude -- the idea that non-Muslims are slaves. It is to be expected that the slaves shall see to the well-being of their masters, and it is simply wrong for slaves to resist what their masters shall do to them.

If the Jews would simply accept this fact, that they are inferior and need to be subservient to the Muslims, then there would simply be no problems in the Middle East.

Somehow, I don't think so.

donsnow · #**778** Apr 22, '12, 3:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Muzhik

I remember reading once that nothing enraged Apaches more than having a victim fight back. The idea of someone actually resisting them was unthinkable. There was an article in a newspaper a few years back about how the Palestinians in Gaza would shell the Israelis, then take their children to the hospitals in Israel. The Palestinians seemed to find no incongruities in these acts. It only begins to make sense when you understand the concept of dhimitude -- the idea that non-Muslims are slaves. It is to be expected that the slaves shall see to the well-being of their masters, and it is simply wrong for slaves to resist what their masters shall do to them.

If the Jews would simply accept this fact, that they are inferior and need to be subservient to the Muslims, then there would simply be no problems in the Middle East.

Somehow, I don't think so.

Good afternoon, Muzik,

Oh.

Well.

Then, what I don't understand,

is since evidently the Apaches and Palestinians have been both smoking the same thing, how did the Peyote get to the Gaza Strip?

God loves you,
Don

**GEddie** · #**779** Apr 22, '12, 6:48 pm

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Originally Posted by donsnow

Good afternoon, Muzik,

Oh.

Well.

Then, what I don't understand,

is since evidently the Apaches and Palestinians have been both smoking the same thing, how did the Peyote get to the Gaza Strip?

God loves you,
Don

N0, there is no peyote in the Middle East, but they have qat

ICXC NIKA

spauline · #**780** Apr 23, '12, 9:11 am

Please pray for my dear friend, Deena, a prolife Catholic who is active and suffered much for many years. Love, scott

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Just wanted to
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in this was a test for Lyme Disease. A positive result came back for
this test.The secondary tests confirming the diagnosis of Lyme Disease
came back this week. There is a chance that this is what has been
causing her health issues all along. Come to find out, the testing for
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There
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The good news is that the immune-therapy treatments she has been doing
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video's. This can really get ugly for some. Thought you may be
interested. Hope you are having a good week.

Thank you for your continued prayers for Deena

Mark