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Old Jan 10, '12, 9:35 pm
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Default What determines "station in life"?

Is it income? Is it social?

Is it something more?

How do you determine what is "becoming" to something (I suppose by knowing it's nature)?

How do you determine what is "becoming to a man's station"?
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Each person is created by God and loved by God.
I don't accept other criteria.
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Is it income? Is it social?

Is it something more?

How do you determine what is "becoming" to something (I suppose by knowing it's nature)?

How do you determine what is "becoming to a man's station"?
Your 'station in life' includes such things as age bracket, marital status, whether or not you have children, whether you are a priest, religious or layperson, perhaps your work status (ie if you are an employer or not).

'Becoming' means 'appropriate' or 'fitting'. Clearly some of the expectations, for example, of what is appropriate for a young married mother who has a highly paid job would be different than expectations for an elderly celibate monk who is vowed to poverty.
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Is it income? Is it social?

Is it something more?
I think that first we would have to define what you mean by "station in life".
To me it might mean ones vocation or calling.
In other cultures perhaps income or birth might be used...

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How do you determine what is "becoming" to something (I suppose by knowing it's nature)?

How do you determine what is "becoming to a man's station"?
Read Mt 5...Things that are becoming to the Christian are contained there.

Overall, "Station in life", and what is "becoming" to such station are largely human concepts. The character traits that Jesus promoted are applicable in any "station" and these are the things that need to be encouraged.

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Your 'station in life' includes such things as age bracket, marital status, whether or not you have children, whether you are a priest, religious or layperson, perhaps your work status (ie if you are an employer or not).
so I suppose that doesn't include income?
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so I suppose that doesn't include income?
I think it can include income - again, different things might be expected of someone who is stinking rich as of someone who is dirt poor.
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Is it income? Is it social?

Is it something more?

How do you determine what is "becoming" to something (I suppose by knowing it's nature)?

How do you determine what is "becoming to a man's station"?
"Station in life" = where you happen to be "parked" right now IOW, it's quite variable.

"becoming" = relative to what (a) God says and (b) what your culture says (cf. for example in Africa, they don't think it's unbecoming of women to walk around topless; in that particular case, of course, the culture's mores are wrong, out of synch with God's design). There's also something like colors that are not becoming to your particular skin palette (cf. the whole Color Me Beautiful concept). If the color makes you look young and vibrant, it's becoming; if you look ghastly and older, it's not. Same applies to shapes of clothing: if someone's got jodhpurs, she shouldn't be wearing tight pants or skirts---it's utterly unbecoming.
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If station in life is a variable concept then does it invalidate it as an object of morality?

For instance, we should seek to maintain our station in life. But a station is supposedly moving and relative, so it would be in vain to try and maintain it.

Is that true?
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If station in life is a variable concept then does it invalidate it as an object of morality?

For instance, we should seek to maintain our station in life. But a station is supposedly moving and relative, so it would be in vain to try and maintain it.

Is that true?
What makes you think we should seek to maintain our station in life?

A young person who is unmarried is certainly free to aspire to marry. A married person without children to aspire to have kids.

A person who is not a priest or religious can certainly aspire, if not prevented, to enter the priesthood or the religious life. A poor person to rise above their poverty and the like.

It's pretty much a given that our station in life will vary, and we can certainly aspire to change it within reason.

It forms a fine basis for morality, because the differences are just differences in how the moral virtues are outwardly expressed. Both the priest and the married man are called on to be chaste, but chastity involves different things for each. Both rich and poor are called on to be generous, but to a different extent and in different ways (even the poor can be generous with their time and their skills and talents). And so on.
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The church uses the term to refer to whether someone is lay - married or single - consecrated or ordained.

So a married lay woman and a priest have very different stations in life and so have different expectations. For example, a priest is expected to say or attend Mass daily, a married lay woman is not.

In secular terms, someone's station in life usually refers to their "class" and so would include income as well as other criteria like education. To say someone should (or shouldn't) do something "becoming to their station in life" is sort of the equivalent of telling someone to act their age. Usually it means that the person has been educated or brought up so an to know better than to do whatever stupid thing they've been caught doing.

In both secular terms and church terms a person's station can change and usually can be improved (by getting married or ordained, by getting more education, by getting a better paying job, etc.)
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Default Re: What determines "station in life"?

Others have given the Church's understanding of "station in life". But of course that is not the only meaning of the phrase.

I looked up "station" in the dictionary and there are a multitude of meanings given for the word (when used as a noun.) I think the most useful definitions for understanding "station in life" some used in reference to surveying: a point where an observation is taken or a precisely located reference point.

Most people understand "station in life" to be a measurement of life factors that are (or were) subject to change over time.
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