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Old Jan 12, '12, 7:01 am
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Default A closed section of the forum listing banned members and why they're banned

If one already exists I apologise, but I have seen on other forums, many as large as this one, that the moderators keep a section of the form usually called "Banned Members" in which only they can post.

There is often one thread in which spambots banned accounts are listed, but often there are "high-profile" cases of members who are trolls (or members who are well-known having several thousands of posts), and they get their own thread in which examples of offending posts are quoted as well as an explanation of why they were banned.

A few times now I have participated in a thread and seen another member banned but I'm not sure why. Other times I see people posting threads complaining about someone being banned, and again I have seen people who are "trolling", cause quite a stir, and are then banned. On forums I have seen this in, it increases the visibility of the moderators and the type of work they do, as well as saving them time as they don't need to explain themselves over PM as to why that member was banned. I think a similar system would work well here.
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Old Jan 12, '12, 7:28 am
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I second this.
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Old Jan 12, '12, 7:39 am
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I'm not sure I agree. Perhaps for the trolls....but we know why the guy with the "keychain spam" gets banned practically daily.

Other bannings--- maybe it is charitable to keep the reason private.
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Other bannings--- maybe it is charitable to keep the reason private.
... So simple ...

One of the things I love about CAF is that we aren't like other forums.

Most members who've been banned know why they have been banned. They also have recourse to the CAF admin via email , for purposes of further elucidation or for appeal if desired.

That really never becomes anyone else's business .


The moderators at CAF also have a system whereby infraction points can be applied in cases where decisions might require more scrutiny.

I think they're doing a great job - a job I know I couldn't do. And I would be willing to bet that practically all the confessors who know how CAF moderators operate , would heartily agree with the way they already serve.

It's all about privacy : Emails From banned members .
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I don't need to know why someone was banned. It's none of my business.

I'm not sure how such a system would help, beyond feeding people's curiosity. I don't think it would help. The rules are plainly listed. If people follow the rules they won't get banned. Simple as that.
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I'm not sure I agree. Perhaps for the trolls....but we know why the guy with the "keychain spam" gets banned practically daily.

Other bannings--- maybe it is charitable to keep the reason private.
The forums aren't private. Unless the offence was commited via PM, it's there for everyone to see anyway.
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If one already exists I apologise, but I have seen on other forums, many as large as this one, that the moderators keep a section of the form usually called "Banned Members" in which only they can post.

There is often one thread in which spambots banned accounts are listed, but often there are "high-profile" cases of members who are trolls (or members who are well-known having several thousands of posts), and they get their own thread in which examples of offending posts are quoted as well as an explanation of why they were banned.

A few times now I have participated in a thread and seen another member banned but I'm not sure why. Other times I see people posting threads complaining about someone being banned, and again I have seen people who are "trolling", cause quite a stir, and are then banned. On forums I have seen this in, it increases the visibility of the moderators and the type of work they do, as well as saving them time as they don't need to explain themselves over PM as to why that member was banned. I think a similar system would work well here.
See last post in the following thread for your answer.

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=5151
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The forums aren't private. Unless the offence was commited via PM, it's there for everyone to see anyway.
Not necessarily. A lot of times the offending post/thread is deleted.
While I admit to being curious about some of the banned members -- there was one who's banning REALLY suprised me -- it's really none of my business. Darn it.
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Default Re: A closed section of the forum listing banned members and why they're banned

Greetings LemonAndLime,

I am not sure having a closed board of why people were banned would be a charitable thing to do. Isn't enough to know that the Moderators do ban people when they do step out of line and leave it in their own hands.

In the time I have been here, as Agnes has said, and I have been coming to this site for several monthes before I joined, there has only been one ban that I was bursting with curiosity over. Yet, as much as I would be curious to know, it's not my business. That lies with the Moderators and the person who got banned.

The moderators when they do ban someone for posting something in the open forums, these posts are usually deleted or edited somehow.

So it's anyone's guess. If anything we ought to be praying for them.

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Old Jan 13, '12, 7:12 pm
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Not necessarily. A lot of times the offending post/thread is deleted.
While I admit to being curious about some of the banned members -- there was one who's banning REALLY suprised me -- it's really none of my business. Darn it.
Same here, I actually spent some time yesterday going back through this one 'banned' members previous posts, from what I could tell I had seen nothing but great contributions.... I found it sad as I thought this person was a good and valuable contributor (not that I had any chat/ threads linked with this person) I discovered & started reading his/her contributions and threads only after the ban

It was only while I was reading past threads in my continued search for growth I found a few of 'his /hers interesting and tried to find more.. Then I discovered the word 'banned'
If she/he did say something wrong that deserved a Ban ~ By looking at the previous postings it would have been totally out of character!!

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If you come here one day and realised that Karl K. has been banned, wouldn't you seriously want to know why he was banned?

I was on one prayer thread and we were usually just about 4 or 5. All of a sudden, 3 posters there were banned. I felt so bad and really wanted to know why they were banned. I felt like the group prayers all of a sudden became unauthentic. I checked their last posts and could decipher why they were banned. And it was very helpful and relieving to know the possible reason. A suspension would have sufficed though IMO.

People have friends here and would definitely want to know why a friend was banned and the possibility of getting that friend back on board.
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I'd rather not see the offenses listed. I think it would encourage gossip and increase the scandal.

And with not hearing of so much as a single complaint of a suspension or ban being unfounded in nearly 3 years of being on here, I'm not worried about how things are handled.
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If you come here one day and realised that Karl K. has been banned, wouldn't you seriously want to know why he was banned?

I was on one prayer thread and we were usually just about 4 or 5. All of a sudden, 3 posters there were banned. I felt so bad and really wanted to know why they were banned. I felt like the group prayers all of a sudden became unauthentic. I checked their last posts and could decipher why they were banned. And it was very helpful and relieving to know the possible reason. A suspension would have sufficed though IMO.

People have friends here and would definitely want to know why a friend was banned and the possibility of getting that friend back on board.
Greetings Kelvinf,

The day Karl Keating gets banned is the day these forums end. I can't imagine that ever happening.



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Yes, it's a good idea. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

And yes, the job of moderator can and often is somewhat tedious and annoying. It's kind of thankless job.
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See last post in the following thread for your answer.

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=5151
Thanks for posting that. It's really too bad though. The objections that it would be somehow not "charitable" really puzzle me but whatever.. in any case it looks like the decision was already made on this a long time ago.
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