Is there any problem with Sola Scriptura? - Page 13

EricFilmer · #**181** Feb 18, '12, 7:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Nicea325

TraditionRules is not here to dialogue or learn,but moreover, simply to stir the pot by the obvious "sucker" punches thrown at us.

Yes, I have also been getting this same sense from TraditonRules for quite some time now. Still, I was curious if he even realized the double-standard he has been exhibiting in this thread and, if so, how he justified it. But seeing as he got banned today (his last post in CAF was at 5:07 p.m., server time), I guess we'll never know.

What I found especially disconcerting was that, not only did he try to switch this thread's topic from Sola Scriptura to purgatory (after he failed to successfully defend Sola Scriptura), but he likewise tried to highjack another thread about Sola Scriptura in the exact same way, as you can see in this post (from Sola Scriptura). Talk about "stirring the pot"!

bogeydogg · #**182** Feb 18, '12, 8:31 pm

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Originally Posted by EricFilmer

Yes, I have also been getting this same sense from TraditonRules for quite some time now. Still, I was curious if he even realized the double-standard he has been exhibiting in this thread and, if so, how he justified it. But seeing as he got banned today (his last post in CAF was at 5:07 p.m., server time), I guess we'll never know.

What I found especially disconcerting was that, not only did he try to switch this thread's topic from Sola Scriptura to purgatory (after he failed to successfully defend Sola Scriptura), but he likewise tried to highjack another thread about Sola Scriptura in the exact same way, as you can see in this post (from Sola Scriptura). Talk about "stirring the pot"!

c'est la vie

I was not aware he was banned.

God Bless

franc1sc0 · #**183** Feb 24, '12, 1:14 pm

I grew up Methodist and have been married to a Catholic for 12 years now. I have been attending the RCIA classes and want to learn more about the Catholic Faith. I have read this entire thread and am 100% positively convinced that I made the right choice and that The Roman Catholic Church is the True Church founded by Christ. This thread has opened my eyes on how most protestants are just grabbing a straws to try and disprove what the Church teaches in attempt to validate their own beliefs. I thank those here defending the Faith by posting clear concise information that has truly opened my heart and mind more to the Catholic Faith. I cant wait for RCIA class on Monday.

Linusthe2nd · #**184** Feb 24, '12, 3:25 pm

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Originally Posted by franc1sc0

I grew up Methodist and have been married to a Catholic for 12 years now. I have been attending the RCIA classes and want to learn more about the Catholic Faith. I have read this entire thread and am 100% positively convinced that I made the right choice and that The Roman Catholic Church is the True Church founded by Christ. This thread has opened my eyes on how most protestants are just grabbing a straws to try and disprove what the Church teaches in attempt to validate their own beliefs. I thank those here defending the Faith by posting clear concise information that has truly opened my heart and mind more to the Catholic Faith. I cant wait for RCIA class on Monday.

Welcome home! So glade for you. Just remember, Catholics are huge sinners ( me for instance ), that is why we are Catholics. Only the guidence of the Church and the Sacraments Christ left with Her can save us.

As regards " Sola Scriptura, " those poor folks who adhere to it just don't know anything about how shakey the history of the Bible is. If one researches the history one can only conclude that it is a miracle that we have one, however defective, that can be read ( not easily) and contains nothing against Faith and Morals ( I speak of approved Catholic Bibles here like the New American Bible Revised Edition - NABRE). The point is that it is impossible to know the TRUTHS in the Bible without the guidence of the Church. First came Christ, then the Church, then the Bible with the Church as the SOLE authorized intrepreter. Actually, the Bible is of secondary importance, except for the Liturgy - Mass, the Office, etc. Many Catholics have and do live their whole lives and hardly touch a Bible, though the Church, of late, has been trying to counter act that trait. Personally, I use the Douay Rhiems, Chanoller edition with the Haydock commentary, but I think I will be buying the NABRE.

EricFilmer · #**185** Feb 24, '12, 4:56 pm

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Originally Posted by franc1sc0

I grew up Methodist and have been married to a Catholic for 12 years now. I have been attending the RCIA classes and want to learn more about the Catholic Faith. I have read this entire thread and am 100% positively convinced that I made the right choice and that The Roman Catholic Church is the True Church founded by Christ. This thread has opened my eyes on how most protestants are just grabbing a straws to try and disprove what the Church teaches in attempt to validate their own beliefs. I thank those here defending the Faith by posting clear concise information that has truly opened my heart and mind more to the Catholic Faith. I cant wait for RCIA class on Monday.

Thanks for the affirmation, and welcome home!

inkaneer · #**186** Feb 25, '12, 7:07 am

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Originally Posted by inkaneer
I think you misundestand. The Apostles passed on what is called the Apostolic Tradition. This was both Oral Tradition as well as the Written Tradition....

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Originally Posted by onlyvoice

I understand that. Here was my question, to which the answer I received was “Yes, and also from the guidance of the Holy Spirit.”

Question Originally Posted by onlyvoice
"So, where did the bishops get the knowledge of what the NT canon was to contain? Mark Shea said that: “We cannot know what the NT canon is apart from Sacred Tradition.” But Sacred Tradition, according to Trent, came from the Apostles themselves handed down to the church by word-of-mouth (unwritten). Notice, it says this “Tradition” did not originate from people that replaced the Apostles who were guided by the Holy Spirit BUT from the Apostles themselves. So, was it from the Apostles that the CC bishops got this knowledge on what the NT canon would contain?"

You said I misunderstood the other poster’s answer. Are you saying it was not from the Apostles that the bishops got this knowledge of what writings would make up the NT canon? If so, then Shea is wrong when he said that “We cannot know what the NT canon is apart from Sacred Tradition” because, according to Trent, Tradition comes directly from the Apostles and no one else.

The best way to answer your post is to point you to a very long and very detailed account on the biblical canon. I think this will provide the answers you seek. Here is the URL:

http://oce.catholic.com/index.php?ti...oly_Scriptures

rjarmendariz · #**187** Mar 7, '12, 12:41 am

I don't know if there is a problem. But let us remember that our church is not based on a scripture alone doctine. Martin Luther came up with this scripture alone doctrine during the reformation.

But know that our theology is larger than just scripture alone. Besides the Bible, which is obviously ambiguous, we have an ancient church that is over 2,000 years old. We have tradition. We have an hierarchy. And we have been able to survive a reformation and deal with heretics such as Luther.

RJA