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Old Feb 13, '12, 11:42 am
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Say for example a married couple divorce but never re-marry or have any relationships with another person.
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Old Feb 13, '12, 11:46 am
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Say for example a married couple divorce but never re-marry or have any relationships with another person.
Not as far as I can tell.

Divorce does not mean one can not receive the Eucharist, remarriage does.
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Not as far as I can tell.

Divorce does not mean one can not receive the Eucharist, remarriage does.
This is my understanding, as well.
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Old Feb 13, '12, 12:28 pm
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Although there may be an innocent party, divorce is a grave matter. Divorce claims to break the marriage vow. Marriage vows are permanent. Intentionally breaking the vow is sinful.
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Although there may be an innocent party, divorce is a grave matter. Divorce claims to break the marriage vow. Marriage vows are permanent. Intentionally breaking the vow is sinful.
Divorce does not break the marriage vows.

Remarriage breaks the marriage vows.

Remarriage and/or entering into another relationship is independent of divorce.

I can see cases where divorce could be sinful, that goes for almost every act that we do. That is to say that anything we do can be sinful, it all matters on the circumstances and the individual involved.

Objectively speaking, divorce (without remarriage) is not a sinful act in and of itself.
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Although there may be an innocent party, divorce is a grave matter. Divorce claims to break the marriage vow. Marriage vows are permanent. Intentionally breaking the vow is sinful.
The vows of a valid marriage cannot be broken. The Church does teach that civil divorce may be obtained in cases where necessary to protect the rights and or safety of a spouse and or children, say from an abusive spouse. That is not necessarily sinful and may in fact be necessary.

An invalid marriage can of course be annulled, as there was no sacramental marriage to begin with.
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Old Feb 13, '12, 3:43 pm
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Where did the posts go? A few hours ago there were posts that quoted from the Catechism and other sources describing why divorce is a sin.
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Old Feb 13, '12, 3:47 pm
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Anyway. Here is one source: http://www.archden.org/tribunal/documents/divorce.htm

The Catechism of the Catholic Church Defines Divorce



Divorce is a grave offense against the natural law. It claims to break the contract, to which the spouses freely consented, to live with each other until death. Sacramental marriage is the sign of the covenant of salvation, to which divorce does incredible injury. Contracting a new union, even if it is recognized by civil law, adds to the gravity of the rupture: the remarried spouse is then in a situation of public and permanent adultery. If a husband, separated from his wife, becomes involved with another woman, he is an adulterer because he makes that woman commit adultery; and the woman who lives with him is an adulteress, because she has drawn another's husband to herself.[2]



Furthermore, the Catechism states that divorce is immoral because “it introduces disorder into the family and into society. This disorder brings grave harm to the deserted spouse, to children traumatized by the separation of their parents and often torn between them, and because of its contagious effect which makes it truly a plague on society.”[3]
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Where did the posts go? A few hours ago there were posts that quoted from the Catechism and other sources describing why divorce is a sin.
2382, 2384, and 2385 says it is a moral offense to Divorce. 2383 and 2386 explain when Divorce is necessary and not a moral offense.

2382 The Lord Jesus insisted on the original intention of the Creator who willed that marriage be indissoluble.174 He abrogates the accommodations that had slipped into the old Law.175

Between the baptized, "a ratified and consummated marriage cannot be dissolved by any human power or for any reason other than death."176

2383 The separation of spouses while maintaining the marriage bond can be legitimate in certain cases provided for by canon law.177

If civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.

2384 Divorce is a grave offense against the natural law. It claims to break the contract, to which the spouses freely consented, to live with each other till death. Divorce does injury to the covenant of salvation, of which sacramental marriage is the sign. Contracting a new union, even if it is recognized by civil law, adds to the gravity of the rupture: the remarried spouse is then in a situation of public and permanent adultery:

If a husband, separated from his wife, approaches another woman, he is an adulterer because he makes that woman commit adultery, and the woman who lives with him is an adulteress, because she has drawn another's husband to herself.178

2385 Divorce is immoral also because it introduces disorder into the family and into society. This disorder brings grave harm to the deserted spouse, to children traumatized by the separation of their parents and often torn between them, and because of its contagious effect which makes it truly a plague on society.

2386 It can happen that one of the spouses is the innocent victim of a divorce decreed by civil law; this spouse therefore has not contravened the moral law. There is a considerable difference between a spouse who has sincerely tried to be faithful to the sacrament of marriage and is unjustly abandoned, and one who through his own grave fault destroys a canonically valid marriage.179
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Anyway. Here is one source: http://www.archden.org/tribunal/documents/divorce.htm

The Catechism of the Catholic Church Defines Divorce



Divorce is a grave offense against the natural law. It claims to break the contract, to which the spouses freely consented, to live with each other until death. Sacramental marriage is the sign of the covenant of salvation, to which divorce does incredible injury. Contracting a new union, even if it is recognized by civil law, adds to the gravity of the rupture: the remarried spouse is then in a situation of public and permanent adultery. If a husband, separated from his wife, becomes involved with another woman, he is an adulterer because he makes that woman commit adultery; and the woman who lives with him is an adulteress, because she has drawn another's husband to herself.[2]



Furthermore, the Catechism states that divorce is immoral because “it introduces disorder into the family and into society. This disorder brings grave harm to the deserted spouse, to children traumatized by the separation of their parents and often torn between them, and because of its contagious effect which makes it truly a plague on society.”[3]



As the Church requires that a civil divorce be obtained before the commencement of the annullment process, your position would be that the Church is requiring the couple to do something immoral?
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Yes, divorce is a sin, a very grave sin. God himself states in the bible, "I HATE DIVORCE! I cannot stand a man who would be that cruel to his wife." In the words of the Beloved and Holy Writ and is repeated in countless Catholic marriages worldwide, "WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER, LET MAN NOT PUT ASUNDER."
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As the Church requires that a civil divorce be obtained before the commencement of the annullment process, your position would be that the Church is requiring the couple to do something immoral?
Apparently so....

Gonna sleep on it.
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It is important in discussing this matter for all to read the entire text of the Catechism.

All the various aspects are there. It can yes be sinful . And yes there can also be legit "legal" recourse for certain legal (etc) purposes (while recognizing that a divorce does not end an actual marriage...the union continues....unless the union is found to never have taken place)
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As the Church requires that a civil divorce be obtained before the commencement of the annullment process, your position would be that the Church is requiring the couple to do something immoral?
As I said in my first post, the Church allows for innocent parties in divorces. An innocent party of a divorce is not doing anything immoral.
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