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Old Feb 19, '12, 2:26 pm
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-Robin Hood (Costner's version)

It's sad.
Morgan Freeman - love it!!
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Yes, he has converted.
Mash'Allah!

One day that will be me taking my shahada.
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Old Feb 19, '12, 5:35 pm
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Mash'Allah!

One day that will be me taking my shahada.
Would you say the same thing if she had decided to convert out?

The difference in this situation is his family will still love and accept him (though acceptance is not approval as so modernly thought), whereas her family in all likelihood would disown her or maybe even kill her (and him).

By the way, it's "Masha'Allah", though I do dig the idea of mashing...

Stay safe.
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Old Feb 19, '12, 5:58 pm
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Would you say the same thing if she had decided to convert out?

The difference in this situation is his family will still love and accept him (though acceptance is not approval as so modernly thought), whereas her family in all likelihood would disown her or maybe even kill her (and him).

By the way, it's "Masha'Allah", though I do dig the idea of mashing...

Stay safe.
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Old Feb 19, '12, 6:48 pm
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I don't dislike Muslims. They are people like you and me. They just happen to be following a false religion. Just because we don't agree with their beliefs doesn't mean we hate them.
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Old Feb 19, '12, 11:34 pm
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whereas her family in all likelihood would disown her or maybe even kill her (and him).
We have been through the 'Inquisitions' so how does that make us any better?

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Hi there & welcome to CAF.

According to Islam, a muslim woman cannot marry a Christian or Jew or lets just say a non-muslim.

Do you know if she is religious?

If she is, most likely your son will have to convert to islam in order to marry her under islamic law.
Yes, he has converted.
It's very wrong to convert because of an earthy thing!, if your son has chosen to convert then that should be because that he was convinced by the religion itself NOT because of someone else telling him to convert in order to marry !!!.
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We have been through the 'Inquisitions' so how does that make us any better?

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The anti-Catholic historical-revisionist Protestant propaganda is strongly inculcated in this one... what shall we do, Dar? Well, Dar, I think a common sense approach would be a logical look at history, for a historical insinuation has occurred. Crikey, Dar, who'da thunk it!?

First, a preface of contextual consideration:
The Catholic Faith commands, unequivocally, since the founding of the Church, that apostates be killed? News to me, anyone else?

What you are espousing is not doctrine, whereas what you've quoted of my saying is doctrine in Islam.
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Interesting that you mention it since the Inquisition is, in actuality, a good thing in terms of the Vatican, which is the official Catholic word on matters. Nothing licentious was approved, and indeed, much was reproved in the abuse of authority given for various reasons (same concept 4th Crusades )

Here's some history: http://catholiceducation.org/article...ld/wh0029.html

Oh, and what you're likely talking about is mainly the popular stories regarding the Spanish Inquisition, which, ironically, was partially due to the conversion of Jewish and Muslims in Spain. Yeah, check it:http://catholiceducation.org/article...ld/wh0075.html

The consensus amongst pretty much every Imam and scholar I've read is that for a Muslim woman to marry a Christian is absolutely forbidden and the main way of dealing with this is her death.

The answers on this are out there, I won't bore you with quotes on it as you too have Google.
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I am a Catholic school religion teacher! Can anyone help me understand how I can reconcile this in my own mind?
I understand how frustrating you are at the moment.........

Unfortunately your son is sick nowadays by what is called "Love Blindness", he can only see that girl in-front of him and only does what she says.

The only thing that you can do now is praying for GOD to reveal the true religion for him and his wife one day............
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I have an overwheming sadness.
You must come to terms with your own feelings. They hold you captive. Talk to someone honestly about how you feel. Forgiveness is also for you.

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Mash'Allah!

One day that will be me taking my shahada.
Rather hilariously you call yourself 'A Paladin of Titan' in your signature. The original Paladins were twelve lords in the court of Charlemagne. They were famed for fighting the Saracens. Roland been the most famous member in legend.
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How does you son feel in giving up the belief regarding Jesus per the Catholic faith..?
When I was first studying Catholicism, about 8 to 10 years ago, I was torn between Islam and Christianity. I admired the Muslim simplicity in faith, belief and adherence to the tenets of their faith and their lack of human respect (That is, not caring so much what people thought of them, but rather what God, per their understanding, thought of them). But ONE thing kept me ABSOLUTELY from being able to become a Muslim- One thing alone. I knew that I would have to accept (believe) that Christ was nothing more than a Prophet .

Worldly and even pagan as I was (unbaptized and still searching for truth), That was something that I simply could not do. Deny Christ? As not being God himself? Never! Even then, I knew enough to know that Christ was no ordinary/regular/great Prophet, no mere Saint. He was God. I thank God that he allowed me to know that.

No amount of beauty, goodness or other wonderful characteristics in other faiths come anywhere near Jesus Christ. If Christianity consisted of nothing but him alone, and consisted of nothing else, not the beautiful liturgies, sacraments, prayers, devotions, traditions, sacred Art,mysticism, martyrs and saints etc, but Jesus Christ Alone, it would STILL be the only option- The ONLY ONE!
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No amount of beauty, goodness or other wonderful characteristics in other faiths come anywhere near Jesus Christ. If Christianity consisted of nothing but him alone, and consisted of nothing else, not the beautiful liturgies, sacraments, prayers, devotions, traditions, sacred Art,mysticism, martyrs and saints etc, but Jesus Christ Alone, it would STILL be the only option- The ONLY ONE!
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Rather hilariously you call yourself 'A Paladin of Titan' in your signature. The original Paladins were twelve lords in the court of Charlemagne. They were famed for fighting the Saracens. Roland been the most famous member in legend.
Actually I'm a fantasy wargamer, and my reference to being a paladin is from RPG gaming, not a historical paladin.
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Only one thing kept you from being a Muslim?

That doesn't sound right. I can list multiple things from the Quaran that are keeping me as far away as possible!
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