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Old Feb 29, '12, 10:34 am
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This is a ridiculous statment in my eyes, but.....the administration is honkering down.


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hold...-contraception
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Is Holder qualified to speak on religious liberty after Hosanna-Tabor?
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Old Feb 29, '12, 11:13 am
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This is a ridiculous statment in my eyes, but.....the administration is honkering down.


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hold...-contraception
Wonder whose constitution he is referring to? It's certainly not ours.
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Old Feb 29, '12, 11:30 am
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Wonder whose constitution he is referring to? It's certainly not ours.
Ruth Buzzi Ginsburg's?
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Is Holder qualified to speak on religious liberty after Hosanna-Tabor?
Obviously not.

Holder can claim anything he wants; it will be for Judges to decide.

In any case, I hear the Administration is looking for a "compromise" to the "compromise."
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I've never heard of a unilateral backtrack being called a "compromise".
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Obviously not.

Holder can claim anything he wants; it will be for Judges to decide.

In any case, I hear the Administration is looking for a "compromise" to the "compromise."
At this point whatever they "compromise" will be interesting. Regardless, if this doesn't show people the goodies that are in store for us, then I give up on my countrymen.......if there's such a thing as "brainwashing", they have been brainwashed, if the election is even close.
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Old Feb 29, '12, 4:11 pm
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Knowing Holder's grasp of our country's laws, his full statement was probably "The first amendment of the Declaration of Independence allows government to force..."
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At this point whatever they "compromise" will be interesting. Regardless, if this doesn't show people the goodies that are in store for us, then I give up on my countrymen.......if there's such a thing as "brainwashing", they have been brainwashed, if the election is even close.
I take "compromise to the compromise" to mean "backing down." The Adm. is up against the "Rock" -- with nowhere else to go with this.
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I can't remember the last decent attorney general we had. Probably none in my lifetime (maybe when I was a kid).
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This is a ridiculous statment in my eyes, but.....the administration is honkering down.


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hold...-contraception
If you read the commentaries following that link, you will gain a new appreciation for how calm and civil the posters are on catholic.com. Maybe the administrators can throw a party to celebrate how easy their jobs are.

Here I can only say that Holder and Obama's legal opinions are ******* unbelieveable even for people who slept through high school civics classes.
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The importance of the next election can not be overstated! An agenda, not liberty, is this man's goal.
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If this mandate is allowed to stand then we can expect persecution in the future and further laws and mandates that endanger our freedom of religion.
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If this mandate is allowed to stand then we can expect persecution in the future and further laws and mandates that endanger our freedom of religion.
It will not stand - not in a court of law, there are several lawsuits against the HHS mandate currently.
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Is Holder qualified to speak on religious liberty after Hosanna-Tabor?
Or calling Americans "cowards" with regards to race relations, or suing Arizona for creating a state law that is identical to the CFR with regards to immigration enforcement, or the voter intimidation scandal in Philidelphia, or Fast and Furious, or......
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