Response after Penitential Rite

DeniseNY · #1 Mar 25, '12, 4:23 pm

Sorry for this silly question. I am Byzantine, but attend a Roman Mass on weekdays. There is a response/prayer that is said during this daily mass after the Penitential Rite. I cannot find it online.

Can anyone help?

djwright4341 · #2 Mar 25, '12, 4:38 pm

http://old.usccb.org/romanmissal/order-of-mass.pdf

Pages 3-6 give several options for the Penitential Rite and the Gloria, to which you are referring, is on page 6 for you.

Phemie · #3 Mar 25, '12, 4:39 pm

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Originally Posted by DeniseNY

Sorry for this silly question. I am Byzantine, but attend a Roman Mass on weekdays. There is a response/prayer that is said during this daily mass after the Penitential Rite. I cannot find it online.

Can anyone help?

The Collect, also known as the Opening Prayer. That prayer and the Prayer after Communion are specific to the day.

Phemie · #4 Mar 25, '12, 4:40 pm

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Originally Posted by djwright4341

http://old.usccb.org/romanmissal/order-of-mass.pdf

Pages 3-6 give several options for the Penitential Rite and the Gloria, to which you are referring, is on page 6 for you.

If she's attending Mass on weekdays, it's more likely that she's referring to the Collect (Opening Prayer), rather than the Gloria.

curlycool89 · #5 Mar 25, '12, 4:41 pm

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Originally Posted by DeniseNY

Sorry for this silly question. I am Byzantine, but attend a Roman Mass on weekdays. There is a response/prayer that is said during this daily mass after the Penitential Rite. I cannot find it online.

Can anyone help?

So the Penitential Rite may follow 1 of 3 patters.

In A, you say the "I confess to almighty God, ..."

In B, it's a dialogue between the priest and the people.

Quote:

Priest: Have mercy on us, O Lord.

People: For we have sinned against you.

Priest: Show us, O Lord, your mercy.

People: And grant us your salvation.

(I had to Google it. I've never known it by heart and have only seen it done once, possibly a second time but it was in French so I wasn't sure).

In C, it's the Kyrie with invocations ("You were sent to heal the contrite of heart, Lord have mercy,...")

At the end of all of them, the priest will say "May almighty God have mercy on us, forgive us our sins, and bring us to everlasting life", to which the response is "Amen".

DeniseNY · #6 Mar 25, '12, 5:49 pm

Thank you for your responses. The odd thing is, the prayer/response that is being recited isn't included in the links! I suppose I could ask the Priest after mass.

Phemie · #7 Mar 25, '12, 6:25 pm

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Originally Posted by DeniseNY

Thank you for your responses. The odd thing is, the prayer/response that is being recited isn't included in the links! I suppose I could ask the Priest after mass.

Is it always the same prayer?

If the prayer that is said is always the same, it's quite possible that the parish you're attending is inserting a prayer of its own before the reading, because during the week, after the Penitential Rite comes the Collect (Opening Prayer), which is different each day, and then the readings.

For example, tomorrow's Collect, which can be found here, is
"O God, by whose wondrous grace
we are enriched with every blessing,
grant us so to pass from former ways to newness of life,
that we may be made ready for the glory of the heavenly Kingdom.
Through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son,
who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, for ever and ever."

DeniseNY · #8 Mar 25, '12, 6:32 pm

Phemie, yes. It's always the same.

929dad · #9 Mar 25, '12, 7:33 pm

Are you sure it isn't, "May Almighty God have mercy on us, forgive us our sins and lead us into everlasting life?" That prayer follows the penitential rite and comes before the collect.