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Old Mar 27, '12, 4:15 pm
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Default Why does God allow the devil to tempt Christians with doubts of His existence

just opinions. It is said that God allows temptation to strengthen or teach us through love for us. Why would He want the devil to tempt us into believing that he does not exist. I am talking about the temptation of extreme doubts. Have any of you often wondered about this? I guess I am missing the lesson here. Just interested in your thoughts.
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Old Mar 27, '12, 4:25 pm
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Job 1:12 comes to mind.
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just opinions. It is said that God allows temptation to strengthen or teach us through love for us. Why would He want the devil to tempt us into believing that he does not exist. I am talking about the temptation of extreme doubts. Have any of you often wondered about this? I guess I am missing the lesson here. Just interested in your thoughts.
This is a modern version of the devil's temptation to Adam which was for Adam to scorn his Creator and thus leave God's friendship via Original Sin.
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When you are tired and worn out it can be hard to experience God's loving presence.

If things are really awful and miserable, it's less of a test of faith if you are consoled by your faith,
but if faith seems unjustified when everything seem awful and miserable, and one wrong thing after another happens, and it doesn't feel like there is a caring God, yet you continue, that's the ultimate proof of your loyalty and faith.

May God's loving presence engulf you always.
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I have long ago given up "Why?" For me the die is cast. It is somewhat liberating.

I do not get on a bus that is going forward only to sit in the back and gaze out the rear window.

The Faith is the Faith. I take comfort in that.

Is there an alternative? Atheism? Good Grief. I''d rather chew my toe off. The Faith defines philosophically what is 'good.' I have found no other sufficient definition.
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just opinions. It is said that God allows temptation to strengthen or teach us through love for us. Why would He want the devil to tempt us into believing that he does not exist. I am talking about the temptation of extreme doubts. Have any of you often wondered about this? I guess I am missing the lesson here. Just interested in your thoughts.
Doubting is a form of thinking, and often not a very pleasant form. It carries with it strong emotions of anguish, frustration, and worry. These emotions combined with doubting thoughts energize us to wrestle with our belief in G-d. Even if they lead us to relinquishing our belief for a time, we are often still consumed by the issue rather than adopting a neutral and apathetic stance. Witness the number of atheists on this very Forum who feel compelled to grapple with the question by means of impassioned debate. Thus our potential return to G-d is ever present in our minds, and doubt may ultimately strengthen our faith. According to Judaism, G-d not only allows Lucifer to tempt us but encourages him to do so. Lucifer takes his orders from G-d.
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Doubting is a form of thinking, and often not a very pleasant form. It carries with it strong emotions of anguish, frustration, and worry. These emotions combined with doubting thoughts energize us to wrestle with our belief in G-d. Even if they lead us to relinquishing our belief for a time, we are often still consumed by the issue rather than adopting a neutral and apathetic stance. Witness the number of atheists on this very Forum who feel compelled to grapple with the question by means of impassioned debate. Thus our potential return to G-d is ever present in our minds, and doubt may ultimately strengthen our faith. According to Judaism, G-d not only allows Lucifer to tempt us but encourages him to do so. Lucifer takes his orders from G-d.
Obviously, we Catholics are obliged to disagree with you on that last point, but this reply is filled with much truth and wisdom. Doubt most certainly can lead one to really dig deeper into his faith and really grow in spiritual understanding. It is, as you say, a very painful process, though. But as the old saying goes, "No pain, no gain."
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just opinions. It is said that God allows temptation to strengthen or teach us through love for us. Why would He want the devil to tempt us into believing that he does not exist. I am talking about the temptation of extreme doubts. Have any of you often wondered about this? I guess I am missing the lesson here. Just interested in your thoughts.
I look at it this way. Medicine tastes like **** but if it is properly administered and used it will benefit us and heal us quicker than if we do not take it. Or even better think about snake venom; while it can kill, it can also cure. The same goes for temptation; while it can kill, it can also help cure us of our vices by giving us the opportunity to practice virtue.
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