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Apr 2, '12, 7:36 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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Originally Posted by IggyAntiochus
Their recognition by the National Council of Churches is irrelevant to whether they are a Christian church. They accept the Book of Mormon as an inspired set of Scripture. Since the Book of Mormon denies Christian verity, they are not a Christian church.
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That's an opinion! There are more Churches that accept them than don't! 
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Apr 2, '12, 7:39 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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That's an opinion! There are more Churches that accept them than don't! |
Their acceptance by other denominations (and given some of the denominations in the National Council of Churches...) is, again, irrelevant. What they believe determines whether they are a Christian church. They accept several fraudulent documents to be the word of God. Most of which denies basic tenets of the Christian faith. This rules out their inclusion among Christ's church, not ecclesiastical opinion.
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Apr 2, '12, 7:41 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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That's an opinion! There are more Churches that accept them than don't! |
That's not an opinion. I'm sorry, but truth is not relative to opinions. The objective truth is that Mormonism is not Christian.
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Apr 2, '12, 7:42 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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Wow what a judgmental attitude; you know barely anything about them... They're a mainline protestant sect! I suppose I am in a heretical cult as well. The Church of England!  |
Judgmental? Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't scripture tell us to "beware of false prophets" and to "test the spirits to see whether they are from God"?
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Apr 2, '12, 7:42 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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Alex your wrong.
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Apr 2, '12, 7:46 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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That's an opinion! There are more Churches that accept them than don't! |
Well, as was stated by IggyAntiochus, that's irrelevant. The Body of Christ is not a democracy. But if we use your standard - there are more Churches that reject the BoM as false; and yet, the CoC believes the BoM to be inspired.
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Apr 2, '12, 7:47 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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Alex your wrong.
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And now you're arguing the point that Mormonism is a protestant denomination...?
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Apr 2, '12, 7:49 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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Well, as was stated by IggyAntiochus, that's irrelevant. The Body of Christ is not a democracy. But if we use your standard - there are more Churches that reject the BoM as false; and yet, the CoC believes the BoM to be inspired.
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You know nothing about protestantism OR Mormonism, I wouldn't expect you too! Unless your a convert from either your in no position to judge the beliefs and practices of other Churches.
Your opinions are all based on outside observations and stereotypes. Wow. All the judgement here.
Unless you've been mormon or protestant, You have no right to tell them or me what is wrong and what is right.
Do you see me telling Catholics here that their faith is wrong?! 
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Apr 2, '12, 7:52 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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You know nothing about protestantism OR Mormonism, I wouldn't expect you too! Unless your a convert from either your in no position to judge the beliefs and practices of other Churches.
Your opinions are all based on outside observations and stereotypes. Wow. All the judgement here.
Unless you've been mormon or protestant, You have no right to tell them or me what is wrong and what is right.
Do you see me telling Catholics here that their faith is wrong?! |
I am a former evangelical protestant. Do I have your permission to participate in the discussion now?
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Apr 2, '12, 7:52 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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Originally Posted by mitex
You know nothing about protestantism OR Mormonism, I wouldn't expect you too! Unless your a convert from either your in no position to judge the beliefs and practices of other Churches.
Your opinions are all based on outside observations and stereotypes. Wow. All the judgement here.
Unless you've been mormon or protestant, You have no right to tell them or me what is wrong and what is right.
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Actually, Scripture commands us to say what is wrong and what is right.
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Do you see me telling Catholics here that their faith is wrong?!
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Catholics are part of the Body of Christ. Mormons and the CoC are not.
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Apr 2, '12, 8:04 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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Actually, Scripture commands us to say what is wrong and what is right.
Catholics are part of the Body of Christ. Mormons and the CoC are not.
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What he said...
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Apr 2, '12, 9:45 pm
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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If by "Christian" you mean one that believes in Jesus Christ as Savior and Redeemer then we most definitely are Christian.
However, if you define "Christian" as one who must believe in the Trinity and the Bible alone as scripture then we definitely are not, and we do not claim to be.
The problem occurs when people try and lump these two statements together. This simply causes confusion, and I am afraid many are happy with it that way.
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Apr 3, '12, 12:37 am
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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I would consider the CoC a cult as well. Although they have distanced themselves from the LDS church - they continue to hold that the Book of Mormon and the Book of Doctrine and Covenants are inspired scripture.
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If by CoC you mean Church of Christ you are completely wrong. Both books are man created, uninspired by God. The believe in multiple gods, Jesus and Satan are spirit children of God, that men can become gods, Jesus death was insufficient to atone for our sins, everyone will go to some form of heaven, only LDS who leave the church will go to hell (outer darkness), salvation is based on works, still teach polygamy, still teach that people of color were cursed in a pre-mortal existence, a woman's salvation is tied to her obedience to her husband, etc.... None of these things has any place at a CoC.
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Apr 3, '12, 4:36 am
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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If by CoC you mean Church of Christ you are completely wrong. Both books are man created, uninspired by God. The believe in multiple gods, Jesus and Satan are spirit children of God, that men can become gods, Jesus death was insufficient to atone for our sins, everyone will go to some form of heaven, only LDS who leave the church will go to hell (outer darkness), salvation is based on works, still teach polygamy, still teach that people of color were cursed in a pre-mortal existence, a woman's salvation is tied to her obedience to her husband, etc.... None of these things has any place at a CoC.
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Wow, about half of your statements are incorrect...
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Apr 3, '12, 6:33 am
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Re: Mormonism and Protestantism
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Unless you've been mormon or protestant, You have no right to tell them or me what is wrong and what is right.
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I was raised Mormon, but honestly that doesn't matter- anyone can look at the tenets of the LDS faith and compare them to the "requirements" for a denomination to be considered Christian and see that there are some major discrepancies between the two.
mitex, you may want to think about the fact that NO ONE is JUDGING Mormonism, people are OBJECTIVELY stating the facts. Even Mormons DO NOT consider themselves protestant. In fact, it's insulting to the LDS community to bunch them in with other protestant denominations (or to even compare them to Catholicism) because they believe they're the one true church, not a denomination of the catholic (meaning universal) Christian Church.
To be considered a true Christian Church, one must believe in the Trinity. The LDS church does not. That is not a judgement, that's a hard, solid fact that ANY LDS member on here would agree that they do NOT believe in the trinity.
No one's being uncharitable here.
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