Pope reaffirms ban on women priests - Page 37

Armyvet007 · #**541** May 3, '12, 11:01 am

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8
Not part of the governing Hierarchy of the Church.

Of course.
For instance, do you really think that privates are as important as generals in an army?
The answer is (or at least should be) obvious.

Um, yeah I do. Battles and wars don't get won or lost by a general, they get won or lost by the actions of some nameless private. The military is run by specialists/corporals; and the most important members have "sergeant" somewhere in their title. The knowledge base and heart of any unit is the NCO [platoon- Platoon Sergeant, Troop- 1SG, Squadron- S3 SGM and CSM, all the way up to the top]. Do yourself a favor and enlist so you can have some sort of clue as to what you are talking about.

Retired U.S. Army officer

Cristiano · #**542** May 3, '12, 11:03 am

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

..............If the Popes and the Bishops don't do it, then what men are responsible?

That is proof that you are just pushing an agenda. Any curious person would have simply asked "Then who is responsible?" while in your question you are already claiming that men are the only one involved and women are thus excluded. It is called "begging the question".

AngryAtheist8 · #**543** May 3, '12, 11:40 am

Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8
..............If the Popes and the Bishops don't do it, then what men are responsible?

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

That is proof that you are just pushing an agenda. Any curious person would have simply asked "Then who is responsible?" while in your question you are already claiming that men are the only one involved and women are thus excluded. It is called "begging the question".

I said men because I was afraid that you would say some variation of "God did it."

Now can you answer the question or not?
Are any (real live) women ever involved in the decisionmaking process?

Lochias · #**544** May 3, '12, 12:02 pm

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

WHAT arguments?
Your merely attempting to insult me (and doing a poor job of it I might add).

'fraid we're just not seein' eye to eye on very much at all, feller.

Lochias · #**545** May 3, '12, 12:03 pm

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

Of course.
For instance, do you really think that privates are as important as generals in an army?
The answer is (or at least should be) obvious.

You should go tell all those generals to run right out into the front lines, then, instead of the privates and other soldiers, and see just how quickly you get laughed out of their offices.

Lochias · #**546** May 3, '12, 12:05 pm

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

I am not disappointed by your insults merely amused.
Like I said before, their not very good

People who live in glass houses should learn the proper use of "their" and "they're."

Cristiano · #**547** May 3, '12, 1:22 pm

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Originally Posted by angryatheist8

originally posted by angryatheist8
..............if the popes and the bishops don't do it, then what men are responsible?

I said men because i was afraid that you would say some variation of "god did it."

now can you answer the question or not?
Are any (real live) women ever involved in the decisionmaking process?

goto #529

AngryAtheist8 · #**548** May 3, '12, 2:15 pm

Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

Of course.
For instance, do you really think that privates are as important as generals in an army?
The answer is (or at least should be) obvious.

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Originally Posted by Lochias

You should go tell all those generals to run right out into the front lines, then, instead of the privates and other soldiers, and see just how quickly you get laughed out of their offices.

You're missing the point.
Generals make the decisions, and their harder to replace, therefore a general is much more important than a private.

AngryAtheist8 · #**549** May 3, '12, 2:17 pm

Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

I am not disappointed by your insults merely amused.
Like I said before, their not very good

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Originally Posted by Lochias

People who live in glass houses should learn the proper use of "their" and "they're."

A fact based criticism.
You're doing better Lochias

**Tantum ergo** · #**550** May 3, '12, 2:22 pm

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8
Not part of the governing Hierarchy of the Church.

Of course.
For instance, do you really think that privates are as important as generals in an army?
The answer is (or at least should be) obvious.

You obviously don't serve in the armed forces. Generals may be involved in strategy and planning, but they do this based on the information supplied to them by underlings.

I wonder if Wellington thought that he was responsible for the defeat of Napoleon at Waterloo and that the privates who fought and died to win the day didn't have anything at all to do with the ultimate outcomes. . .

**JharekCarnelian** · #**551** May 3, '12, 2:22 pm

Lads could you take the playground exchange of insults elsewhere please? Both of you are as bad as each other. If you have a mutual dislike then simply don't talk to each other I'd suggest.

AngryAtheist8 · #**552** May 3, '12, 2:24 pm

Originally Posted by angryatheist8
originally posted by angryatheist8
..............if the popes and the bishops don't do it, then what men are responsible?

I said men because i was afraid that you would say some variation of "god did it."

now can you answer the question or not?
Are any (real live) women ever involved in the decisionmaking process?

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

goto #529

Here is post #529 below:

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Cristiano
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Re: Pope reaffirms ban on women priests

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8
And who established/interprets the Bible and Sacred Tradition...

Why its the Pope and Bishops of course

This is another falsity that might be based on ignorance or on an agenda. If you are truly honest then read a little bit more about the basics of Sacred Scriptures and Sacred Tradition (e.g. sensus fidelium).
__________________

P.S. That is not an answer.
You accused me of lying and then told me to look up the answer myself.
If you can't answer the questions just admit it.

**Tantum ergo** · #**553** May 3, '12, 2:25 pm

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8
..............If the Popes and the Bishops don't do it, then what men are responsible?

I said men because I was afraid that you would say some variation of "God did it."

Now can you answer the question or not?
Are any (real live) women ever involved in the decisionmaking process?

WHAT 'decision making process"?

We keep on telling you, but you won't accept it, that the teachings of the Church weren't made up and DECIDED on by mere men (or women) but by God.

Just because you don't accept it doesn't mean it isn't true.

And no matter how much you insist that we can't just 'say it's God', sorry sugar, we can, we do, and we will. Because it's true.

AngryAtheist8 · #**554** May 3, '12, 2:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Tantum ergo

WHAT 'decision making process"?

We keep on telling you, but you won't accept it, that the teachings of the Church weren't made up and DECIDED on by mere men (or women) but by God.

Just because you don't accept it doesn't mean it isn't true.

And no matter how much you insist that we can't just 'say it's God', sorry sugar, we can, we do, and we will. Because it's true.

Yes, yes, I know the metaphysical theory.
But in practice, somebody has to actually write the laws and interpret the doctrines, and whoever does that is effectively in charge.

Now who is effectively in charge?
Because I was under the impression that it was the Pope and other Bishops.

**JharekCarnelian** · #**555** May 3, '12, 2:30 pm

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Originally Posted by AngryAtheist8

Yes, yes, I know the metaphysical theory.
But in practice, somebody has to actually write the laws and interpret the doctrines, and whoever does that is effectively in charge.

Now who is effectively in charge?
Because I was under the impression that it was the Pope and other Bishops.

God is in charge.