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Apr 5, '12, 9:29 am
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Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
Jackson, MS -- The Mississippi state Senate has approved a measure that abortion backers strongly oppose because it could resulting in stopping abortions at the last remaining abortion facility in the state, making it the first abortion-free state in the country.
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/04/05/m...on-free-state/
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Apr 5, '12, 10:50 am
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Apr 6, '12, 10:05 pm
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
 I really hope this does it.
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Apr 7, '12, 8:54 pm
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
..because, as everyone knows, abortions are only performed in abortion clinics.
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Apr 7, '12, 10:18 pm
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Originally Posted by cornbread_r2
..because, as everyone knows, abortions are only performed in abortion clinics.
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Murders will happen regardless, but its nice when society doesn't help those people commit those murders.
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Apr 7, '12, 10:55 pm
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
You can be sure the whole nations collective of Planned Parenthood and Pro-Choice minions will swarm Mississippi with their propaganda, protests, and pleas to Judges to force abortion on a population that doesn't want it.
Just like they've done everywhere else...
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Apr 10, '12, 10:28 am
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Originally Posted by juliee
Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
Jackson, MS -- The Mississippi state Senate has approved a measure that abortion backers strongly oppose because it could resulting in stopping abortions at the last remaining abortion facility in the state, making it the first abortion-free state in the country.
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/04/05/m...on-free-state/ |
WOW! A state with only ONE abortion facility? And it's not even a tiny state, like Rhode Island. I'm impressed that it has gotten this far. I pray for success for Mississippi. But PP will fight it all the way and for some reason Obama seems to think of PP as his own personal project.
Let's knock PP down, raze every PP "clinic," burn them and let the ground swallow them up (sans all human beings who might be inside, of course). The slaughtering will still go on (we now have a PP "clinic" in my sweet little town) but this would be such a huge step in the right direction.
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Apr 10, '12, 11:07 am
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
Just for the record, this state is ranked #5 in teen pregnancy (as of 2005)
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/USTPtrends.pdf
It's nice to know that whatever they're doing down there is working (for certain values of "working").
I'll wager that the states with the strongest pro-life leanings have higher teen pregnancy rates, lower education rates, and higher divorce rates.
Anyone want to take my wager?
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Originally Posted by LJH_80
Just for the record, this state is ranked #5 in teen pregnancy (as of 2005)
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/USTPtrends.pdf
It's nice to know that whatever they're doing down there is working (for certain values of "working").
I'll wager that the states with the strongest pro-life leanings have higher teen pregnancy rates, lower education rates, and higher divorce rates.
Anyone want to take my wager? |
Why would it matter?
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Apr 10, '12, 2:07 pm
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Originally Posted by LJH_80
Just for the record, this state is ranked #5 in teen pregnancy (as of 2005)
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/USTPtrends.pdf
It's nice to know that whatever they're doing down there is working (for certain values of "working").
I'll wager that the states with the strongest pro-life leanings have higher teen pregnancy rates, lower education rates, and higher divorce rates.
Anyone want to take my wager? |
Perhaps you should cite a study done by an organization NOT founded and funded by PP, the very entity under discussion here.
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Apr 10, '12, 2:27 pm
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Originally Posted by LJH_80
Just for the record, this state is ranked #5 in teen pregnancy (as of 2005)
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/USTPtrends.pdf
It's nice to know that whatever they're doing down there is working (for certain values of "working").
I'll wager that the states with the strongest pro-life leanings have higher teen pregnancy rates, lower education rates, and higher divorce rates.
Anyone want to take my wager? |
I'll happily take that trade, in return for lower murder rates.
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Apr 10, '12, 2:28 pm
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Originally Posted by cornbread_r2
..because, as everyone knows, abortions are only performed in abortion clinics.
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Sour grapes. At least people will know they won't be performed at this clinic if they go under.
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Apr 15, '12, 9:34 am
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Perhaps you should cite a study done by an organization NOT founded and funded by PP, the very entity under discussion here.
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Excellent point. 
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Apr 15, '12, 10:02 am
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Re: Mississippi Could Become First Abortion-Free State
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Originally Posted by LJH_80
Just for the record, this state is ranked #5 in teen pregnancy (as of 2005)
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/USTPtrends.pdf
It's nice to know that whatever they're doing down there is working (for certain values of "working").
I'll wager that the states with the strongest pro-life leanings have higher teen pregnancy rates, lower education rates, and higher divorce rates.
Anyone want to take my wager? |
Well, the burden of proof is on you. So you would need to provide statistics to back up your assertion and those statistics should be from an organization that is not pro-abortion or pro-life (actually stats from both organizations should be included and, really, stats from numerous organizations should be presented). Also, stats for all fifty states would need to be provided. By you.
You've chosen three hypotheses to study:
(1) states with the strongest pro-life "leanings" (that term would need an operational definition) have higher teen pregnancy rates;
(2) states with the strongest pro-life "leanings" (operational definition needed) have lower education rates than states with the weakest pro-life "leanings" - please remember the operational definition already mentioned and an operational definition for "lower education rates" would also need to be supplied - by you;
(3) states with the strongest pro-life "leanings" have higher divorce rates (of course remarriage rates should also be provided but that's just IMHO).
It looks like a lot of work to me. But instead of presenting it as a wager I would think it would be much stronger backup to your assertion (which currently has none except one figure, seven years old and provided by an organization known to be avidly pro-abortion) to present all those stats instead of just presenting a wager. Also, all confounding variables would need to be presented, along with an admission that any obtained results can be obtained because of chance. And conclusions of the research, along with a discussion of any problems, should also be presented. The findings of each study should be discussed - the methods used, the statistical analysis and its appropriateness, and the value of 'p' (the probability level would most likely be different in different studies).
Scientific method does not allow for proof. I hope everyone is aware of this.
If I accept your wager are you going to provide everything that is necessary to back up your assertion? Or would you expect me to do all that work?
It's really beyond the scope of this forum.
Just askin'.
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