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The trail of blood, landmarker theory has been rejected a historical fantasy by the huge majority of Baptists.

I find it very near to "the great controversy" by SDA prophetess Ellen G White, all mistruths.
Back on topic: What this not a 7th day Baptist believes:

That Jesus is the Christ is rejected by most of the religions of the world.

What now? The trail of blood and the landmarks cannot be obliterated, even though many have tried to do so. The long war against God continues. Who is on the Lord's side?

Is it time to trim lamps? Even so, come Lord Jesus.

No, this is not E.G. White.

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Lutherans and Anglicans have not 'paganised the scripture. Much as I might disagree them with theologically that is a rather ludicrous charge to level at them.
This was a rhetorical question, not a ludicrous charge. Paganistic practices have crept into Christendom since day one. Many have been deceived. If it were possible The Elect would be deceived. That is not possible. Jesus keeps them through sword, fire and "the rack". They do not recant.

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This was a rhetorical question, not a ludicrous charge.
Charges are often disguised as rhetorical questions:

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Why so quick to distance yourself from SDAs? Do they not believe in the same Jesus that you believe in? Are they not "on the Lord's side?"

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What now? The trail of blood and the landmarks cannot be obliterated, even though many have tried to do so.
What are you saying here...?
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Back on topic: What this not a 7th day Baptist believes:

That Jesus is the Christ is rejected by most of the religions of the world.

What now? The trail of blood and the landmarks cannot be obliterated, even though many have tried to do so. The long war against God continues. Who is on the Lord's side?

Is it time to trim lamps? Even so, come Lord Jesus.

No, this is not E.G. White.

Peace,

James Least
James,
Are you referring to Trail of Blood (1931), a booklet by Baptist minister, James Milton Carroll?

Quote from Trail of Blood:

"FUNDAMENTAL*DOCTRINES
1. A spiritual Church, Christ its founder, its only head and law giver.
2. Its ordinances, only two, Baptism and the Lord's Supper. They are typical and
memorial, not saving.
3. Its officers, only two, bishops or pastors and deacons; they are servants of the
church.
4. Its Government, a pure Democracy, and that executive only, never legislative.
5. Its laws and doctrines: The New Testament and that only.
6. Its members. Believers only, that are saved by grace, not works, through the
regenerating power of the Holy Spirit.
7. Its requirements. Believers on entering the church to be baptized, that by immersion,
then obedience and loyalty to all New Testament Laws.
8. The various churches separate and independent in their execution of laws and
discipline and in their responsibilities to God but cooperative in work.
9. Complete separation of Church and State.
10. Absolute Religious Liberty for all."
Link: http://www.bryanstation.com/online-m...-blood-english.


The Fundamental Doctrines in Trail of Blood reveal serious problems.

In number five, we find Its laws and doctrines: The New Testament and that only. They have, like Marcion in 150 CE, eliminated the Old Testament. Trail of Blood becomes a source of doctrine in its place. Even in their use of the New Testament; they have corrupted what is clearly revealed in Holy Scripture. The booklet is, also, vehemently anti-Catholic.

Peace,
Anna
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There are also several saint Cynthias..
JC,
I didn't know that. I doubt my friend knows either.

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As I said before, let us get back on topic.
I'm tying.

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Back on topic: What this not a 7th day Baptist believes:

That Jesus is the Christ is rejected by most of the religions of the world.

What now? The trail of blood and the landmarks cannot be obliterated, even though many have tried to do so. The long war against God continues. Who is on the Lord's side?

Is it time to trim lamps? Even so, come Lord Jesus.

No, this is not E.G. White.

Peace,

James Least
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This was a rhetorical question, not a ludicrous charge. Paganistic practices have crept into Christendom since day one. Many have been deceived. If it were possible The Elect would be deceived. That is not possible. Jesus keeps them through sword, fire and "the rack". They do not recant.

Peace,

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Let us get back on topic.
So far the two Baptists on this thread have not been able to contain themselves and have been banned.
If ANYTHING answers the OPs question, this object lesson does.
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So far the two Baptists on this thread have not been able to contain themselves and have been banned.
If ANYTHING answers the OPs question, this object lesson does.
JustaServant,

I think part of the problem is that some people come to CAF to proselytize, rather than discuss beliefs and practices, or learn more about Catholic beliefs, or any faith other than their own. Those who do this often see information as flowing in one direction---that direction is from them to threads with little real dialogue. You can't get a straight answer when you ask a question; and they often post off topic.

Anyway, I'm sending up prayers for James Least.

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I think part of the problem is that some people come to CAF to proselytize, rather than discuss beliefs and practices, or learn more about Catholic beliefs, or any faith other than their own. Those who do this often see information as flowing in one direction---that direction is from them to threads with little real dialogue. You can't get a straight answer when you ask a question; and they often post off topic.

Anyway, I'm sending up prayers for James Least.

Peace,
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I'll bet I could start a thread on What do (Episcopals, Presbyterians, Methodists, Brethren, ect) believe, and I would not see the same result.
I think its the Baptist mindset. I don't see this with other Protestants even in person. But with Baptists I do.
Last year I had an appointment in the home of an elderly Baptist couple. They were signing an insurance contract. Nowadays everything is done on computer, no paper. So the signing has to be on computer as well. Well, my handwriting has always looked bad (maybe I should have been a doctor). So I make an funny offhand comment about when I was a kid in Catholic school we had penmenship classes, and those nuns could never beat me into good handwriting.
The room got suddenly cold. She looked up at me and said: "Oh....long pause....you're a Catholic (almost spitting out the words)?
I ignored it and moved on. But that is what I am talking about. They have this chemical reaction whenever they hear the word.
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I'll bet I could start a thread on What do (Episcopals, Presbyterians, Methodists, Brethren, ect) believe, and I would not see the same result.
I think its the Baptist mindset. I don't see this with other Protestants even in person. But with Baptists I do.
Last year I had an appointment in the home of an elderly Baptist couple. They were signing an insurance contract. Nowadays everything is done on computer, no paper. So the signing has to be on computer as well. Well, my handwriting has always looked bad (maybe I should have been a doctor). So I make an funny offhand comment about when I was a kid in Catholic school we had penmenship classes, and those nuns could never beat me into good handwriting.
The room got suddenly cold. She looked up at me and said: "Oh....long pause....you're a Catholic (almost spitting out the words)?
I ignored it and moved on. But that is what I am talking about. They have this chemical reaction whenever they hear the word.
The Baptist church I attended (briefly) actively taught (and had pamphlets in their foyers saying as much) that the Catholic Church was a cult.

Once I had to write to the pastor. I was upset that a Bible study had consisted ONLY of bashing the Catholic Church's teachings. I wasn't even Catholic! But I thought it was tacky and it frustrated me that while I was seeking to learn more about MY faith, they were just teaching me why everyone ELSE was wrong. I asked him; "Is this a practice of your church? To attack other faiths?"

His response? "No, this isn't a practice of our church. However, the Catholic Church is wrong because of this this and this..."

That's when I stopped attending the Baptist church.

So is this actually what Baptists believe (that the Catholic Church is a cult?) or was this pastor just misguided in his zeal?
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