"Difficult" Callers

TarkanAttila · #1 Apr 19, '12, 7:41 am

Two days ago there was an obnoxious caller (Rick, I believe?) on the line who kept claiming that we blindy follow the Bible without any rational thought or somesuchthing. And yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, that same caller called AGAIN and they let him through. CAL has had more than a few obnoxious callers over the years.

But I would like to know: why do you apologists, Patrick Coffin et al, put up with obnoxious callers like that, who keep saying the same thing over and over again, or who try to talk over you and won't listen to you? The ones who are like talking to a brick wall - a very loud, opinionated one?

Rainaldo · #2 Apr 19, '12, 8:46 am

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Originally Posted by TarkanAttila

Two days ago there was an obnoxious caller (Rick, I believe?) on the line who kept claiming that we blindy follow the Bible without any rational thought or somesuchthing. And yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, that same caller called AGAIN and they let him through. CAL has had more than a few obnoxious callers over the years.

But I would like to know: why do you apologists, Patrick Coffin et al, put up with obnoxious callers like that, who keep saying the same thing over and over again, or who try to talk over you and won't listen to you? The ones who are like talking to a brick wall - a very loud, opinionated one?

Sometimes it's to expose them for what they are.

Also, because they are not the only people who think that way.

Equites Christi · #3 Apr 19, '12, 8:54 am

Would it look better if they censured their callers?

englishredrose · #4 Apr 19, '12, 9:03 am

Your answer may well be the one they listen to and change their mind about things.their
Life isn't easy and if we only responded to the 'nice' calls of whatever your defination of nice calls are, then where is the Christian love in that. What have you really achieved in what you are doing?

God loves us all doesn't he....?

nickybr38 · #5 Apr 19, '12, 12:19 pm

I think these calls are especially effective because these 'difficult' callers give us, who are operating outside of radio land, an idea how to respond to these sort of people. It's a little lesson in apologetics for us on the outside who don't get to screen who we are exposed to.

These difficult callers are my favorites and least favorites at the same time.

Favorites because it's good to hear how other Christians respond to these truly frustrating claims from anti-Christian's.

Least favorites because it's so frustrating listening to people like that. They just refuse to listen, refuse to dialogue... their minds are set and they refuse to try and see things from our viewpoint. How can dialogue be entered into in those circumstances?

Panthervision · #6 Apr 19, '12, 12:48 pm

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Originally Posted by TarkanAttila

Two days ago there was an obnoxious caller (Rick, I believe?) on the line who kept claiming that we blindy follow the Bible without any rational thought or somesuchthing. And yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, that same caller called AGAIN and they let him through. CAL has had more than a few obnoxious callers over the years.

But I would like to know: why do you apologists, Patrick Coffin et al, put up with obnoxious callers like that, who keep saying the same thing over and over again, or who try to talk over you and won't listen to you? The ones who are like talking to a brick wall - a very loud, opinionated one?

I heard the caller Tuesday afternoon. Eric from Columbus. He called 3 shows in a row trying to state the same thing. I pray that when he is on hold that he can be converted. He is at least listening to EWTN.

codefro · #7 Apr 19, '12, 2:34 pm

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Originally Posted by TarkanAttila

Two days ago there was an obnoxious caller (Rick, I believe?) on the line who kept claiming that we blindy follow the Bible without any rational thought or somesuchthing. And yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, that same caller called AGAIN and they let him through. CAL has had more than a few obnoxious callers over the years.

But I would like to know: why do you apologists, Patrick Coffin et al, put up with obnoxious callers like that, who keep saying the same thing over and over again, or who try to talk over you and won't listen to you? The ones who are like talking to a brick wall - a very loud, opinionated one?

It makes for good comedy

Moore11 · #8 Apr 19, '12, 5:42 pm

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Originally Posted by TarkanAttila

Two days ago there was an obnoxious caller (Rick, I believe?) on the line who kept claiming that we blindy follow the Bible without any rational thought or somesuchthing. And yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, that same caller called AGAIN and they let him through. CAL has had more than a few obnoxious callers over the years.

But I would like to know: why do you apologists, Patrick Coffin et al, put up with obnoxious callers like that, who keep saying the same thing over and over again, or who try to talk over you and won't listen to you? The ones who are like talking to a brick wall - a very loud, opinionated one?

Because in real life situations of witnessing to the faith this happens all the time.

garn9173 · #9 Apr 19, '12, 5:51 pm

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Originally Posted by TarkanAttila

Two days ago there was an obnoxious caller (Rick, I believe?) on the line who kept claiming that we blindy follow the Bible without any rational thought or somesuchthing. And yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, that same caller called AGAIN and they let him through. CAL has had more than a few obnoxious callers over the years.

But I would like to know: why do you apologists, Patrick Coffin et al, put up with obnoxious callers like that, who keep saying the same thing over and over again, or who try to talk over you and won't listen to you? The ones who are like talking to a brick wall - a very loud, opinionated one?

As someone with a radio background, the dump button on the board is a wonderful thing

JChapel · #10 Apr 19, '12, 9:41 pm

Noticing the similarity between the Rick that called during the hour with Patrick Madrid and the Rick that called during The Chaplain Is In hour yesterday, I pulled up the two podcasts and their voices sound... exactly the same, only difference being one Rick identifies as coming from Chicago and the other from Ohio. Both of their arguments sound the same. However, the second Rick claims not to be the first Rick.

Whatever the case, two people or one, we should pray for him / them.

Moore11 · #11 Apr 19, '12, 9:51 pm

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Originally Posted by JChapel

Noticing the similarity between the Rick that called during the hour with Patrick Madrid and the Rick that called during The Chaplain Is In hour yesterday, I pulled up the two podcasts and their voices sound... exactly the same, only difference being one Rick identifies as coming from Chicago and the other from Ohio. Both of their arguments sound the same. However, the second Rick claims not to be the first Rick.

Whatever the case, two people or one, we should pray for him / them.

Rick is Slick.

catholicgamer · #12 Apr 20, '12, 3:37 pm

I just got finished listening to that show with Rick (...the one that called with Fr. Serpa...), and I must say I truly love listening to those calls, for two reasons:

1) It shows the pure emotional place in which the New Atheism movement lives its daily life. The talk about being reasonable and logical is a complete snow job. This mirrors the past two years of experience I've had in debating members of the New Atheism. They argue from emotion, never from logic and from there, the fallacies flow like a raging waterfall. "HOW DARE YOU!!!". Really? Well then...guess you win since you're outraged. Please.

2) It shows that the New Atheism has no idea what it's talking about when it comes to the finer points of theological and philosophical thought. "How can you say everything has a cause?". I'm surprised Patrick didn't nip this in the bud, because that is not the argument, and never has been. No theologian has ever made that argument: no Al-Ghazali, not Aquinas, not William Lane Craig, etc...no one....and yet this guy Rick thinks it is. When pressed on Aquinas, Rick says he's heard of him in an Ethics class, but I'm willing to bet the farm he's never picked up the Suma nor even bothered to research any modern treatments for the existence of God. They're simply not reading nor understanding what it is that they object to.

So. All emotion. No reading. No understanding. Sloppy. This...ladies and gents..is the New Atheist movement in a nut shell. Unfortunately there are a lot of Rick's out there....I kid you not.

nickybr38 · #13 Apr 20, '12, 3:42 pm

Yeah, Rick was... ridiculous.

He clearly wasn't listening. He kept spouting off about the Bible but they never ONCE mentioned the Bible. He had an agenda, he had a script and he was clearly emotional. If he was speaking rationally he would have been far more controlled and perhaps he may have addressed their points instead of talking over them.

Luigi Daniele · #14 Apr 20, '12, 4:00 pm

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Originally Posted by nickybr38

Yeah, Rick was... ridiculous.

He clearly wasn't listening. He kept spouting off about the Bible but they never ONCE mentioned the Bible. He had an agenda, he had a script and he was clearly emotional. If he was speaking rationally he would have been far more controlled and perhaps he may have addressed their points instead of talking over them.

There are seminar callers on Catholic talk radio?

mab23 · #15 Apr 20, '12, 4:27 pm

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Originally Posted by codefro

It makes for good comedy

yes it does -