Ann Romney: ‘I Love The Fact That There Are Women Out There Who Don’t Have A Choice’ And ‘Must Go To Work’ - Page 4

Kasama · #46 Apr 25, '12, 7:35 pm

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Originally Posted by mommamia

Sorry, I'm a scientist.

You quoted the question, I figured you were responding to it.

Most moms I know aren't employed, most of them are smart enough to realize they are lucky. Heck, just getting everyone up, fed, dressed and off to daycare is quite a chore...and that's all before starting work.

As was said, its not that I don't think raising children isn't work, but fail to see how its as much or more work than raising kids AND working outside the home. We aren't talking about either or here ie employment OR children, but doing both.

Anne Romney should just be herself, and stop apologizing for her choices, because many people feel she is making it worse by trying to pretend she has faced the same challenges the poor or middle class parents make.

Being a scientist sounds like a fun job, how is that tougher than chasing 5 boys?

EmperorNapoleon · #47 Apr 25, '12, 7:35 pm

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Originally Posted by _Abyssinia

Also, some people on this thread suggested Ann may have had a maid to help her look after her children but Ann said in the speech that she did not have help with the children until four months after the fifth child was born, when she had to have emergency surgery and was bedridden.

Romney's attempts to portray his wife as everywoman are absurd and the housewife remarks just make it worse. Comments like "There were several nannies to oversee, as well as a number of maids, butlers, chauffeurs, gardeners, tutors and private coaches. My struggles were not easy, but neither are the struggles of other stay-at-home moms all across the nation." are utterly ridiculous. The average American woman wouldn't find it such a burden to have a full staff catering to your every need and doing all of the work, a normal housewife does, for her. She doesn't know what its like to struggle and sob stories about managing servants are just offensive. If the Romney's really understood the average American worker they wouldn't be flaunting their wealth either deliberately or otherwise. To be honest, I don't believe that either Ann or Mitt know how to speak to or connect with people who earn an average or below average wage. They have a lot of great country club one-liners and they're digging a deeper hole with them.

mommamia · #48 Apr 25, '12, 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Kasama

Being a scientist sounds like a fun job, how is that tougher than chasing 5 boys?

Try working all day, after getting 3 kids out the door, then coming home to cook, clean and Chase those kids.

Again, we aren't talking either or, but doing BOTH! I agree just going to work everyday, with no children to care for IS easier than being a stay ay home mom, but its impossible for something to be so hard, and it not to be harder to do that thing along with another.

That's like saying only having a job waiting tables is harder than having a job waiting tables and working in a factory. It's ridiculous, and the Romneys sound ridiculous trying to equate the two.

Kasama · #49 Apr 25, '12, 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by EmperorNapoleon

Romney's attempts to portray his wife as everywoman are absurd and the housewife remarks just make it worse. Comments like "There were several nannies to oversee, as well as a number of maids, butlers, chauffeurs, gardeners, tutors and private coaches. My struggles were not easy, but neither are the struggles of other stay-at-home moms all across the nation." are utterly ridiculous. The average American woman wouldn't find it such a burden to have a full staff catering to your every need and doing all of the work, a normal housewife does, for her. She doesn't know what its like to struggle and sob stories about managing servants are just offensive. If the Romney's really understood the average American worker they wouldn't be flaunting their wealth either deliberately or otherwise. To be honest, I don't believe that either Ann or Mitt know how to speak to or connect with people who earn an average or below average wage. They have a lot of great country club one-liners and they're digging a deeper hole with them.

She did it herself, and she has MS.

mommamia · #50 Apr 25, '12, 7:51 pm

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Originally Posted by EmperorNapoleon

Romney's attempts to portray his wife as everywoman are absurd and the housewife remarks just make it worse. Comments like "There were several nannies to oversee, as well as a number of maids, butlers, chauffeurs, gardeners, tutors and private coaches. My struggles were not easy, but neither are the struggles of other stay-at-home moms all across the nation." are utterly ridiculous. The average American woman wouldn't find it such a burden to have a full staff catering to your every need and doing all of the work, a normal housewife does, for her. She doesn't know what its like to struggle and sob stories about managing servants are just offensive. If the Romney's really understood the average American worker they wouldn't be flaunting their wealth either deliberately or otherwise. To be honest, I don't believe that either Ann or Mitt know how to speak to or connect with people who earn an average or below average wage. They have a lot of great country club one-liners and they're digging a deeper hole with them.

Do you have a source for that quote? I'd like to read it.

Ancient1 · #51 Apr 25, '12, 7:54 pm

Mrs. Romney did not word her ideas particularly well, I believe I know what she was trying to say in a positive light. However, who the heck cares?

Ann Romney is not running for President of the United States.

If Mitt Romney starts making firm statements about women, motherhood and his believes on what those roles should be, then it's worth discussing.

EmperorNapoleon · #52 Apr 25, '12, 8:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Kasama

She did it herself, and she has MS.

What exactly is "it?" A full staff of nannies, maids, butlers, chauffeurs, gardeners, tutors and private coaches don't leave much for a housewife to do around the house.

rmills1 · #53 Apr 25, '12, 8:07 pm

Let's list some newspapers/newssites that have questionable news reporting:

New York Times
thinkprogress.com
lifesitenews.com
National Catholic Reporter
Huffington Post
Kansas City Star
Fox News
CNN
MSNBC
The Guardian (UK)

This is only the condensed version.

mommamia · #54 Apr 25, '12, 8:24 pm

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Originally Posted by rmills1

Let's list some newspapers/newssites that have questionable news reporting:

New York Times
thinkprogress.com
lifesitenews.com
National Catholic Reporter
Huffington Post
Kansas City Star
Fox News
CNN
MSNBC
The Guardian (UK)

This is only the condensed version.

Off topic and totally ridiculous...

mommamia · #55 Apr 25, '12, 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Kasama

She did it herself, and she has MS.

No, she had a staff, and my aunt has MS. Sadly, my aunt can't afford a staff.

I have no problems with Anne Romney's choices, but she needs to stop trying to make me believe that she is somehow in touch with us commoners.

Kasama · #56 Apr 25, '12, 8:59 pm

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Originally Posted by EmperorNapoleon

What exactly is "it?" A full staff of nannies, maids, butlers, chauffeurs, gardeners, tutors and private coaches don't leave much for a housewife to do around the house.

She gave an interview on FOX News, she had no help (from nannies, maids, etc.) with the kids until the 5th one, when her MS started getting worse.

meltzerboy · #57 Apr 25, '12, 9:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Jerry Miah

http://thinkprogress.org/special/201...ey-women-work/
video here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...elections-2012

I'm not a conservative Republican or a Romney supporter, but obviously Ann Romney simply misspoke. I'm sure there is no ulterior motive or ill will toward working women on her part. This is a tempest in a teapot.

mommamia · #58 Apr 25, '12, 9:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Kasama

She gave an interview on FOX News, she had no help (from nannies, maids, etc.) with the kids until the 5th one, when her MS started getting worse.

Hmm, on CNN she did say she managed help...so now we have to figure out which is true.

I don't know that it really matters to me, the fact is Anne Romney has never had to wonder if her kids were sick enough to justify a Dr visit, never had to tell her kids no to extra lessons or activities because they weren't in the budget, she's never had to choose whether to pay the mortgage or the electric bill.

And she has never had to work.

Kasama · #59 Apr 25, '12, 9:20 pm

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Originally Posted by mommamia

I don't know that it really matters to me, the fact is Anne Romney has never had to wonder if her kids were sick enough to justify a Dr visit, never had to tell her kids no to extra lessons or activities because they weren't in the budget, she's never had to choose whether to pay the mortgage or the electric bill.

I didn't realize that scientists were that underpaid.

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Originally Posted by mommamia

And she has never had to work.

That's the quote that started this whole mess, most woman raising children find it insulting.

Suudy · #60 Apr 25, '12, 9:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Lujack

ThinkProgress, for any of its faults, has at least an equivalent record to LifeSiteNews. It was only a few weeks ago on here that there was a LifeSiteNews article accusing Georgetown of hosting a pro-abortion speaker named Peter Singer, only for it to be discovered that they had mixed up two different people with the same name.

I posted on this. LifeSite didn't confuse things. The guy they quoted did.

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost....1&postcount=10