What did Jesus say about sanctity of marriage between man/woman only?

bmaj · #1 May 12, '12, 6:23 am

Does anyone know any excerpts from the Gospels regarding Jesus' teachings on this topic? I'm familiar with St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans which are excellent, but I could use some help in defending the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman with anything else available from the New Testament, hopefully from the Gospels? Some Catholics and Christians I know are defending gay "marriage" by saying Jesus never spoke against homosexual actions. Please help!
Thanks.

Pfaffenhoffen · #2 May 12, '12, 7:33 am

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Originally Posted by bmaj

Does anyone know any excerpts from the Gospels regarding Jesus' teachings on this topic? I'm familiar with St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans which are excellent, but I could use some help in defending the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman with anything else available from the New Testament, hopefully from the Gospels? Some Catholics and Christians I know are defending gay "marriage" by saying Jesus never spoke against homosexual actions. Please help!
Thanks.

Jesus never spoke for gay marriage !!!
Jesus said: "Man and woman will leave their fathers and mothers and will become one flesh. One, not two!".
He never spoke about the sanctity of gay marriage nor, for the matter, in the sactity of poligamy, poliandry and the like.

victorbuhagiar · #3 May 12, '12, 7:49 am

We have indirectly a hint of what happened in the old days. This is from Chapter 17 (
Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible)
"[26] And as it came to pass in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. [27] They did eat and drink, they married wives, and were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark: and the flood came and destroyed them all. [28] Likewise as it came to pass, in the days of Lot: they did eat and drink, they bought and sold, they planted and built. [29] And in the day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. [30] Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man shall be revealed."

ellie85 · #4 May 12, '12, 7:59 am

I am going to try to give you some help without stumbling through this myself...

First read Jn.1:1-2.."In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (2) He was in the beginning with God. (NAB)....so we know Jesus was there in the beginning, the Gospel of John tells us that. Now to Genesis, "Let us make man in OUR image, after our likeness"Gn. 1:26, Gn. 1:27 says " God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them. In Gen. 2 we read about the second story of creation, in vs. 18 is says "It is not good for man to be alone. I will make a suitable partner for him." then God creates woman in vs.23-24.."the man said: "This one, at last, is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; This one shall be called woman, for out of 'her man' this one has been taken. That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become one body."

God did not create man for man, woman for woman, yet man for woman, God knew the covenant of marriage from the beginning when he tells man to cling to your wife. Going back to John 1:1-2 we know that the "Word" is Jesus and he was there from the beginning of creation, therefore his intentions for man and woman are clearly noted from the start. We also may want to note Gen. 1:28 ...that God blessed them and said " Be fertile and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it" Without man and woman this decree from God can not be justly adhered to.

In Chapter 5 of Matthew Jesus teaches about the 6th commandment "Thou shall not commit adultery" this commandment forbids the act of having immoral sexual activity, specifically adultery, the church also includes in this, fornication, prostitution, pornography, homosexual activity, masturbation, group sex, rape, incest, pedophilia, bestiality and necrophilia. The 9th commandment forbids the intentional desire longing for immoral sexuality. To sin in the heart, Jesus says, is to lust after a woman or a man in your heart with the desire and will to have immoral sex with them. Just like hating your neighbor, it's killing them in your heart and is a sin and immoral.( this explanation of the commandments is paraphrased from Catholicism for Dummies).

I hope this helped in some way, I have more in my head but that works faster sometimes then my writings, God instilled in all of us the ability to follow morality and natural laws. We know in our heart that this type of behavior is by no means what God had in mind for us from the beginning of time. I continue to pray for the gay community, I do not have to like what they stand for or do, but I have to love them as a human because God asks us to.

God Bless and I will keep you in my prayers!!!

bmullins · #5 May 12, '12, 8:12 am

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Originally Posted by bmaj

Does anyone know any excerpts from the Gospels regarding Jesus' teachings on this topic? I'm familiar with St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans which are excellent, but I could use some help in defending the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman with anything else available from the New Testament, hopefully from the Gospels? Some Catholics and Christians I know are defending gay "marriage" by saying Jesus never spoke against homosexual actions. Please help!
Thanks.

In order for their logic to be fruitful, or true in anyway, they must relegate Jesus to not being the Word. If the Bible is the Word, and Jesus is the Word, than anytime they Word speaks about marriage and homosexuality then Jesus indeed spoke through the writers. The New Testament addresses this issue in detail.

The Word is also alive still today and guiding the Catholic church through the Holy Spirit. As Catholics we believe that the Church itself is a visible representation of that Word. So when the church speaks in it's authority, something revealed by the Holy Spirit, it is indeed the Word. Hence, in order to say Jesus never spoke against homosexuality, is to say that Jesus is merely a man, and not God.

Once you admit that Jesus is God, and that Jesus is the Word, and the Word is God (John 1); then you must admit that if the Bible says it's wrong, or the church via the Holy Spirit says it's wrong, then Jesus indeed does say it's wrong.

victorbuhagiar · #6 May 13, '12, 3:22 am

The law of Moses, which is of course an expansion of God's commandment is clear: Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination. Leviticus Ch.18 v 22. And Jesus made it clear He had no intention of changing any law but to to bring it to perfection.

We must always remember that we should not hate the sinner but the sin.

mini_me640 · #7 May 13, '12, 10:13 am

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The law of Moses, which is of course an expansion of God's commandment is clear: Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination. Leviticus Ch.18 v 22. And Jesus made it clear He had no intention of changing any law but to to bring it to perfection.

We must always remember that we should not hate the sinner but the sin.

While I am totally against gay marriage, I dont know if it is wise to use Leviticus as backup for the position, given the many laws in Leviticus that we don't follow...

Norseman82 · #8 May 13, '12, 11:42 am

Well, in Matthew 19, when responding to the question about divorce, Jesus did quote that "a man shall leave his mother and father and cling to his wife", so there Jesus did reaffirm (even if it was indirectly) that the nature of marriage is indeed heterosexual. If Jesus was OK with same-sex unions - a very radical departure from Jewish law - why are there no Gospel accounts of Him saying so? After all, there were accounts of Him challenging the Sabbath regualtions.

bmaj · #9 May 14, '12, 10:16 am

Thanks so much to everyone for your replies. I sure hope I can convey the info to the staunch pro-gay "marriage" zealots that I come in contact with as well as you all have. I don't think they want to listen at all to begin with, so whatever I say may fall on deaf ears. I will have to keep on earnestly praying and doing my best to gently explain..... So many people seem to believe that if we're against gay "marriage," we must be prejudiced and downright evil, so this is a real hard topic to address sometimes.

God bless all of you for your help!