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Old May 14, '12, 11:29 pm
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Wow, thank you, that's very interesting. I love to acquire new knowledge...just visited http://www.capuchin.com for more insight. Lovely vocation. How long have you been a Franciscan ClayPots47? I'm intrigued as to your day-to-day living...

Close to 20 years. Day-to-day living is guided by the Rule and the Constitutions, we go from the Gospel to life, and from life to the Gospel. Right now, I am in limbo, I moved and have yet to transfer to a new fraternity, as there is none where I live, plus I am disabled. I actually helped with the founding of a fraternity where I last lived, as that location also had no fraternity. But I simply can't do that again. The two nearest fraternities are at least a 40 min drive from here, plus I have no transportation. The one meets during a weeknight, the other on a Sunday afternoon, and the times are outside the para-transit ADA locations, and would be considered non-ADA trips, which are not available outside regular bus hours. And then there is the hurdle of the limitations of my disability, that gets in the way of attending, typically due to unsupportive furnishings.
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Old May 14, '12, 11:47 pm
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I'm sorry he's an OFM - the Capuchins' hood is part of the habit.
OFM hoods have a cape under the hood.
Conventuals habits are grey and have a longer cape.
a) I have never seen a hood with a point extending to the waist on a habit of an Observant, but I have on Capuchin. I paused the video at a certain point and noticed the long hood. Going by the point "b" I added next, he could be an Observant in a community that adopted the longer hood. But the hoods on the Observants typically aren't longer than mid-back/shoulder-blade length b) There really is no "Official habit" for the three branches. Actually there are a number of variations. I have seen Observants in either black or brown, Conventuals in either dark grey or black. At least the Capuchins pretty much stick to brown. Poor Clares are the same way. Some wear brown with black veils, others wear beige and brown veils. Brother JR on this forum has frequently mentioned the lack of formal habit styles among Franciscans, because neither Francis nor Clare ever intended a specific habit to be worn, instead, they wore what the poor wore. There is a community of friars known as the "Blue Jean" friars, and yes, their tunics are made of denim. c) I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this.
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Old May 15, '12, 6:11 am
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a) I have never seen a hood with a point extending to the waist on a habit of an Observant, but I have on Capuchin. I paused the video at a certain point and noticed the long hood. Going by the point "b" I added next, he could be an Observant in a community that adopted the longer hood. But the hoods on the Observants typically aren't longer than mid-back/shoulder-blade length b) There really is no "Official habit" for the three branches. Actually there are a number of variations. I have seen Observants in either black or brown, Conventuals in either dark grey or black. At least the Capuchins pretty much stick to brown. Poor Clares are the same way. Some wear brown with black veils, others wear beige and brown veils. Brother JR on this forum has frequently mentioned the lack of formal habit styles among Franciscans, because neither Francis nor Clare ever intended a specific habit to be worn, instead, they wore what the poor wore. There is a community of friars known as the "Blue Jean" friars, and yes, their tunics are made of denim. c) I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this.
The hood extending to the waist was the Recollects who rejoined the Observants some time ago.

Canada received the Recollect Friars (and the Northern USA) when it was mission land.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9collets

St. Bonaventure University in New York State has a statue of St. Francis in a recollect habit.
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I've just been watching various performances of Panis Angelicus on Youtube. I found a couple of lovely performances by Andrea Bocelli, Charlotte Church and Chloe Agnew then I came across this brief video by a monk. His voice is an absolute delight (superb!) and he displays such joy and light in his face when he sings. Simply beautiful. I am trying to find out who he is. I tried contacting the profile on youtube to no avail...

Here is the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGZMz...ature=youtu.be

(It appears to be set in Assisi - I've not been there myself, but I googled some images and they seemed to match...)

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What a beautiful, classically trained voice! It's so clear, pure and true in sound and quality. I was not expecting that to come out of his mouth. You're right. It's definitely a superb voice especially compared to those other voices you mentioned. I wish I knew who he was as well.

Thank you for sharing!!!
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Old May 15, '12, 6:59 am
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These are OFMs - their cape is long and narrow at the back.
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Close to 20 years. Day-to-day living is guided by the Rule and the Constitutions, we go from the Gospel to life, and from life to the Gospel. Right now, I am in limbo, I moved and have yet to transfer to a new fraternity, as there is none where I live, plus I am disabled. I actually helped with the founding of a fraternity where I last lived, as that location also had no fraternity. But I simply can't do that again. The two nearest fraternities are at least a 40 min drive from here, plus I have no transportation. The one meets during a weeknight, the other on a Sunday afternoon, and the times are outside the para-transit ADA locations, and would be considered non-ADA trips, which are not available outside regular bus hours. And then there is the hurdle of the limitations of my disability, that gets in the way of attending, typically due to unsupportive furnishings.
Wow, 20 years...and that's really impressive that you helped with the founding of a fraternity. Sorry to hear of your troubles in reaching the nearest fraternities in your new locality and the unsupportive furnishings. That must be quite frustrating. What options are open to you? Can you move again, closer to a fraternity that is suitable?
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What a beautiful, classically trained voice! It's so clear, pure and true in sound and quality. I was not expecting that to come out of his mouth. You're right. It's definitely a superb voice especially compared to those other voices you mentioned. I wish I knew who he was as well.

Thank you for sharing!!!
You're more than welcome. I was hoping people might be stirred by the beauty of his voice. I'm trying my best to find out more - I have to know! Hopefully soon...
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Old May 16, '12, 10:38 pm
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What a beautiful, classically trained voice! It's so clear, pure and true in sound and quality. I was not expecting that to come out of his mouth. You're right. It's definitely a superb voice especially compared to those other voices you mentioned. I wish I knew who he was as well.

Thank you for sharing!!!
You are more than welcome. I was hoping his voice might stir a few hearts. I won't rest until I find out who he is - hopefully soon...
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Old May 17, '12, 4:58 am
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I think there was a bug earlier - my first response didn't post so I tried again (and noticed 'sent to moderator') and now both are up...sorry!
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I'm sorry he's an OFM - the Capuchins' hood is part of the habit.
OFM hoods have a cape under the hood.
Conventuals habits are grey and have a longer cape.

I wore the OFM habit for 6 years.


Capuchin habits


OFM habits


conventual habit
I am sure you are right, he is not a Capuchin, he is an OFM. I am told by another friend that 'the Capuchin habit is just a tunic with a hood and cord. There is no teardrop shaped piece of cloth that forms the rounded part of the upper OFM habit when viewed from the front and the the pointed cloth when viewed from the back.'
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Wow, ok...I just read this article on the Independent Catholic News website! The Friar is called Alessandro Brustenghi, from the original friary founded by Saint Francis of Assisi: the Porziuncola in Assisi.

http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=20439

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Wow, ok...I just read this article on the Independent Catholic News website! The Friar is called Alessandro Brustenghi, from the original friary founded by Saint Francis of Assisi: the Porziuncola in Assisi.

http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=20439

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Wow, indeed!!!! Thank you for finding his name and story. I'm spreading it to my colleagues. (We're all classical singers and often lament the state of classical or crossover voices coming out on recording.) You can hear and feel the prayer coming from his voice. That is something which cannot be taught and touches the listener.
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Wow, indeed!!!! Thank you for finding his name and story. I'm spreading it to my colleagues. (We're all classical singers and often lament the state of classical or crossover voices coming out on recording.) You can hear and feel the prayer coming from his voice. That is something which cannot be taught and touches the listener.
I just found this video too (he has no hair!) The performance made me smile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-2KQYlhBK4
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I just found this video too (he has no hair!) The performance made me smile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-2KQYlhBK4
I loved it. It's a romantic love song (Speak to me of love, Mariu) and one of those songs that you need to milk. The more you milk it, the better it is. Ha! Ha! He does it really well and it also made me smile seeing a brother in full habit performing it.
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The singer is Friar Alessandro Brustenghi based at the Porziuncola (Our Lady of the Angels) in Assisi. The video was of course shot in beautiful Assisi.
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