What is Hell like? - Page 2

Slaney · #16 May 13, '12, 6:49 pm

Hell........

CarolVP · #17 May 13, '12, 10:42 pm

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Originally Posted by itullian

You didn't have to come to this thread, you know.

itullian · #18 May 13, '12, 10:55 pm

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Originally Posted by CarolVP

You didn't have to come to this thread, you know.

i think this is the best answer.

itullian · #19 May 14, '12, 12:09 am

well, knowing how bad isolation feels, i couldn't think of a worse punishment for a non physical being.

i feel isolated from God now and it's no fun, so i can't imagine how bad that would be.

**tonyrey** · #20 May 14, '12, 1:10 am

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Originally Posted by itullian

well, knowing how bad isolation feels, i couldn't think of a worse punishment for a non physical being.

i feel isolated from God now and it's no fun, so i can't imagine how bad that would be.

At least your isolation is a feeling rather than a fact!

**tonyrey** · #21 May 14, '12, 1:19 am

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Originally Posted by itullian

i think this is the best answer.

No one is compelled to accept God's invitation to heaven. Some prefer to live in their own little world without any obligations to others...

perro sarnoso · #22 May 15, '12, 5:00 pm

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Originally Posted by CarolVP

I define Hell as "the absence of God forever, freely chosen". I understand Heaven to be a state of eternal happiness with God, freely chosen, and Hell to be a choice to be without God forever. A person who makes this choice makes it before death, and has until the last moment before death to repent of his/her rejection of God.

That being said, I noticed that one thread, on the justice of Hell, had lengthy discussions on what Hell was really like. This seemed to be at a tangent, at the very least. Ergo, this new thread. I admit that I haven't checked for another one exactly the same. I'd rather start fresh.

My own concept of Hell is best explained by the excruciating heat of extreme anger, combined with the extreme coldness of loneliness. When one is extremely angry, one is caught up in the 'fire' of total self-consuming fury. It closes others out. Closing other people out, in its turn, causes the 'coldness' of isolation.

On earth, we can get over these states of utter misery, but in Hell we may not.

Satan is eternally locked in this misery, and seeks others to join him - not because he seeks their company, but because he hates God, and wants to possess the souls that God has created for Heaven.

Like everything you fear and everything you don't even know you fear.......but nothing you can imagen.

maklavan · #23 May 17, '12, 10:22 am

Our Holy father and his predecessor both wrote on this. They say that we must be careful not to make metaphorical language literal,or embrace the views of an earlier time. Both state that hell is an awareness of the permanent loss of God.No fire, no bodily torment ,no devils poking you with tripods.

Nec5 · #24 May 17, '12, 11:25 am

Hell is being perpetually stuck at the DMV.

Charlemagne II · #25 May 17, '12, 11:55 am

Hell is knowing you blew it for all eternity ... a whole lot of weeping.

billcu1 · #26 May 17, '12, 3:11 pm

[quote=CarolVP;9292826]I define Hell as "the absence of God forever, freely chosen". I understand Heaven to be a state of eternal happiness with God, freely chosen, and Hell to be a choice to be without God forever. A person who makes this choice makes it before death, and has until the last moment before death to repent of his/her rejection of God.

[snip]

But alot has to be revealed! Personally I think god in his grace will make a way for those in hell. As spoken above hell is more like a state of being. But god is everywhere.

**tonyrey** · #27 May 18, '12, 4:55 pm

Bitter-sweet!

**tonyrey** · #28 May 18, '12, 4:58 pm

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Originally Posted by maklavan

Our Holy father and his predecessor both wrote on this. They say that we must be careful not to make metaphorical language literal,or embrace the views of an earlier time. Both state that hell is an awareness of the permanent loss of God.No fire, no bodily torment ,no devils poking you with tripods.

Some take morbid delight in dwelling on the supposed tortures inflicted on the damned whereas in reality it is a case of self-inflicted misery!

CarolVP · #29 May 18, '12, 6:42 pm

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Originally Posted by tonyrey

Some take morbid delight in dwelling on the supposed tortures inflicted on the damned whereas in reality it is a case of self-inflicted misery!

Yes, and the imagined tortures, also imagined to be inflicted by God, are what give those who would mock so much ammunition.

CarolVP · #30 May 18, '12, 7:00 pm

[quote=billcu1;9309693]

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Originally Posted by CarolVP

I define Hell as "the absence of God forever, freely chosen". I understand Heaven to be a state of eternal happiness with God, freely chosen, and Hell to be a choice to be without God forever. A person who makes this choice makes it before death, and has until the last moment before death to repent of his/her rejection of God.

[snip]

But alot has to be revealed! Personally I think god in his grace will make a way for those in hell. As spoken above hell is more like a state of being. But god is everywhere.

1. I agree that "a lot has to be revealed". It has been. Next, the revelation must be accepted. Then, it has to be acted upon. God judges according to the different circumstances of each person's life.

2. I disagree that God in His grace will 'make a way' for those in Hell. Hell is eternal separation from God. There is no escape once in Hell, but there are myriads of chances before death. Moreover, there are ways for sincere and good persons to gain Heaven. God saves. And God is the only One with enough information to judge each individual. No one in Hell can ever tell God that the choice was not theirs, or that God's judgement was erroneous. Hell is for those with an implacable hatred of God, either implicit or explicit. They sought to be without God on earth, up until the moment of death, and God respects that choice for eternity.