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Old Aug 4, '05, 1:14 pm
Michael's Sword Michael's Sword is offline
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Default Jesus falls 3 times

In the stations of the cross we are all familiar with Jesus falling 3 times while carrying the cross. These events, however, are not in scripture.

Can anyone help me (actually my wife) as to where the knowledge of these events comes from?

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Old Aug 4, '05, 1:24 pm
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In the stations of the cross we are all familiar with Jesus falling 3 times while carrying the cross. These events, however, are not in scripture.

Can anyone help me (actually my wife) as to where the knowledge of these events comes from?

Thanks.
The 3 synoptic Gospels all tell us that "as they led [Jesus] out [to be crucified] they compelled Simon of Cyrene to carry the cross....". John's Gospel tells us that Jesus carried his own cross and says nothing about Simon of Cyrene. The tradition is (note it is a small "t" tradition or legend) that Jesus began to carry his cross, but couldn't go on because of his weakened condition after his brutal flogging. The Romans would see he needed someone else to carry it, but probably only after he had fallen with it. After all, they wouldn't care if he was having trouble but only that he was holding things up. Someone else might have a quote from an early Church document for this tradition. In any case, it does not violate Scripture to believe he fell 3 times. The fact is, he probably fell more times than that, but 3 is a number that stands for "more than 2 times" in biblical understanding. If the tradition does not violate Scripture then there is no reason why we cannot suppose Jesus fell at least 3 times carrying his cross.
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Old Aug 4, '05, 2:32 pm
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More than you thought there was to know; more than you might care to know:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15569a.htm
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Old Aug 5, '05, 3:57 am
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Perhaps prophetically, Proverbs 24:16 says:
for a righteous man falls seven times, and rises again; but the wicked are overthrown by calamity.

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Old Aug 13, '05, 8:35 pm
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I believe Jesus fell under the weight of the cross more than three times. His physical condition was severe,He was savagely beaten,scourged,crowned with thorns,forced to carry the Cross,and he never ate after the Last Supper,and He never had any sleep.Traditionally we count only three. For further details on the physical condition of Christ I recommend the book "The crucifixion of Jesus,a forensic inquiry"by Fredrick T. Zugibe.
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Old Aug 13, '05, 8:45 pm
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Can anyone help me (actually my wife) as to where the knowledge of these events comes from?

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A couple of years ago when Mel Gibson's The Passion of The Christ came out, my wife and I got into a playful argument as to how many times Christ fell in the movie. In my typical stubborness, I was adament that Mel kept to the story and that Christ fell three times. After experiencing the film a second time I think we counted five or six falls. My wife was charitable enough not to give me the "See I told you so." Her wry little smile spoke volumes.
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Old Aug 14, '05, 8:22 am
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I hate to open up a can of worms here, but the sign of the cross isn't in scripture either.
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