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Old May 19, '12, 3:13 pm
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Default Man Wanted Baby Aborted, Crushed Her Head After Birth

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No different to China's one child policy where they inject lethal formaldehyde into babiesí skulls during forced abortions or after birth.

Awful.
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Old May 19, '12, 3:40 pm
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Its all disgusting to me... I just can't fathom why someone would do that to a child... thiers or not.

Got me thinking he must be on drugs or something.

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No different to China's one child policy where they inject lethal formaldehyde into babiesí skulls during forced abortions or after birth.

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Old May 19, '12, 3:51 pm
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Its all disgusting to me... I just can't fathom why someone would do that to a child... thiers or not.

Got me thinking he must be on drugs or something.
Both parents are handicaped
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Old May 19, '12, 3:54 pm
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Its all disgusting to me... I just can't fathom why someone would do that to a child... thiers or not.

Got me thinking he must be on drugs or something.
Most likely not on illegal drugs, possibly on legal drugs to combat the mental health issues they both have.

Could be a control issues or poor insight to the consequences of his actions on his behalf - didn't get his own way the first time. Got his way the second time.

It is a shame that others around him did not recognize the risk this baby was in prior to Jacklyn's death.
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Old May 19, '12, 4:17 pm
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Having two parents who are mentally disabled would be a red flag for the doctor and/or the grandparents to call Child Protection. Pregnant women who have problems are visited by social workers before the child is born on a regular basis.

If this hadn't happened before, certainly the hospital should have called in its social worker who in turn would have called Child Protection. It's the law.
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Old May 19, '12, 4:25 pm
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Some additional information on the case

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At that time, as a man with an IQ of 65, Fitzpatrick "had reached the height of his career opportunity" mowing lawns and sprucing up gardens.

"Their conclusion was, very simply, they did not have the financial ability to care for another child," Bennett said.

The couple discussed abortion, but the procedure's $500 price tag "was not on the table."

So as the months went by, the couple simply went on with their lives ó ignoring the fact that another baby was growing inside Barrise.
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...190319/-1/NEWS

As part of his plea deal, he will testify against his wife and mother of their child, when she stands trial in a few months.
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Old May 19, '12, 5:27 pm
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i pray that this case will open the eyes of people to the evil that abortion is and engenders.
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i pray that this case will open the eyes of people to the evil that abortion is and engenders.
This case opens the eyes not around abortion, but the need to support parents as a whole community. Those that have mental illnesses and are parents are fully listened too and supported in their roles as a parent.

If someone sat down and took the time to converse with these parents, they may have realized that Jacklyn's life was at risk.

One could question that these parents and Jacklyn are victims of the financial elite Can not afford for a abortion and can not afford to raise the child, with their lack of insight this was their option. Very sad that this has happened and a sad world that we live in.
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Why did they not think to have the baby adopted if they can not take care of the child?
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This case opens the eyes not around abortion, but the need to support parents as a whole community. Those that have mental illnesses and are parents are fully listened too and supported in their roles as a parent.

If someone sat down and took the time to converse with these parents, they may have realized that Jacklyn's life was at risk.

One could question that these parents and Jacklyn are victims of the financial elite Can not afford for a abortion and can not afford to raise the child, with their lack of insight this was their option. Very sad that this has happened and a sad world that we live in.
Let me repeat: Social service is to be notified when you have one or both mentally handicapped people preparing to be parents. It is already the law. Both were/are probably receiving SSDisability and both or one may have been working through a government program. Last, unless she had the baby at home, the doctor and nurses would have realized the child was in danger.
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Let me repeat: Social service is to be notified when you have one or both mentally handicapped people preparing to be parents. It is already the law. Both were/are probably receiving SSDisability and both or one may have been working through a government program. Last, unless she had the baby at home, the doctor and nurses would have realized the child was in danger.
I would question whether it is moral to allow people like this to marry in the first place. Remember, scripture says not everybody is fit to be spouses/parents. Matthew 19.

I'm pretty sure this biblical position is not reflected in the laws of this country, with the emphasis on individual liberties, but maybe it SHOULD be...
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Old May 20, '12, 8:02 am
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How sickening! This baby COULD have been ADOPTED by a childless couple (like my cousin and his wife who are trying to adopt) but instead, this little precious gift from God was MURDERED! This is no different than what George Tiller did or what Leroy Carhart does. The only difference is the baby was born.
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I would question whether it is moral to allow people like this to marry in the first place. Remember, scripture says not everybody is fit to be spouses/parents. Matthew 19.

I'm pretty sure this biblical position is not reflected in the laws of this country, with the emphasis on individual liberties, but maybe it SHOULD be...
Not every person with a low IQ or mentally handicapped kills. Actually, there are a lot more with higher IQs and income who have killed their unborn babies because it is inconvenient.....like 60 million in the last 40 years.
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Old May 20, '12, 6:22 pm
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Let me repeat: Social service is to be notified when you have one or both mentally handicapped people preparing to be parents. It is already the law. Both were/are probably receiving SSDisability and both or one may have been working through a government program. Last, unless she had the baby at home, the doctor and nurses would have realized the child was in danger.
Why do people always try to make the Govt responsible for fixing everything? Their family and neighbors should have stepped in. Social services can help but they've also proven their ineptitude time and time again.

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I would question whether it is moral to allow people like this to marry in the first place. Remember, scripture says not everybody is fit to be spouses/parents. Matthew 19.

I'm pretty sure this biblical position is not reflected in the laws of this country, with the emphasis on individual liberties, but maybe it SHOULD be...
I think it used to be not allowed, but now common sense has taken a back seat to 'civil rights'
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