Holy Days of Obligation while traveling

KateS24 · #1 May 22, '12, 7:45 am

I hope this is a right place for my post!

I recently encountered a problem while traveling home from college. My university is in a parish that celebrates Ascension Thursday on the following Sunday. So when I went to daily Mass on Thursday, it was the regular readings for that day. Then I traveled home on Saturday morning. Forgetting that my mom's house is in the diocese of New York (which celebrates the Holy Day on Thursday) I was confused when the priest said 7th Sunday of Easter, then realized that I missed the Holy Day!

I did not attend the Ascension Mass even though I went to Mass on Thursday and Sunday.

Was I dispensed because I was in a different diocese on the day?

This leads me to the bigger question of who's jurisdiction are you under while traveling or moving? I suppose you have to follow the rules of where ever you are?

**adrift** · #2 May 22, '12, 7:55 am

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Originally Posted by KateS24

I hope this is a right place for my post!

I recently encountered a problem while traveling home from college. My university is in a parish that celebrates Ascension Thursday on the following Sunday. So when I went to daily Mass on Thursday, it was the regular readings for that day. Then I traveled home on Saturday morning. Forgetting that my mom's house is in the diocese of New York (which celebrates the Holy Day on Thursday) I was confused when the priest said 7th Sunday of Easter, then realized that I missed the Holy Day!

Was I dispensed because I was in a diocese on the day?

This leads me to the bigger question of who's jurisdiction are you under while traveling or moving? I suppose you have to follow the rules of where ever you are?

I was taught that you were in the jurisdiciton that your were physically in HOWEVEER I recently read that it was where you belonged. At any rate, you shouldn't worry about it. You met your obligation. I hope someone can clear this question up.

SMHW · #3 May 22, '12, 8:23 am

I believe that those who are traveling get to follow the rules of either home or destination, whichever is the least restrictive.

But in any case it does not matter for you. You attended Mass on both days. The fact that the readings were not for the Holy Day is irrelevant.

tee_eff_em · #4 May 22, '12, 9:48 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by KateS24

I hope this is a right place for my post!

I recently encountered a problem while traveling home from college. My university is in a parish that celebrates Ascension Thursday on the following Sunday. So when I went to daily Mass on Thursday, it was the regular readings for that day. Then I traveled home on Saturday morning. Forgetting that my mom's house is in the diocese of New York (which celebrates the Holy Day on Thursday) I was confused when the priest said 7th Sunday of Easter, then realized that I missed the Holy Day!

I did not attend the Ascension Mass even though I went to Mass on Thursday and Sunday.

Was I dispensed because I was in a different diocese on the day?

This leads me to the bigger question of who's jurisdiction are you under while traveling or moving? I suppose you have to follow the rules of where ever you are?

Due to your circumstances, you simply did not experience the Solemnity of the Ascension of the Lord. I am pretty sure you are golden (cf. Re: Holy Days of Obligation).

tee

MarkThompson · #5 May 22, '12, 10:20 am

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Originally Posted by KateS24

I hope this is a right place for my post!

I recently encountered a problem while traveling home from college. My university is in a parish that celebrates Ascension Thursday on the following Sunday. So when I went to daily Mass on Thursday, it was the regular readings for that day. Then I traveled home on Saturday morning. Forgetting that my mom's house is in the diocese of New York (which celebrates the Holy Day on Thursday) I was confused when the priest said 7th Sunday of Easter, then realized that I missed the Holy Day!

I did not attend the Ascension Mass even though I went to Mass on Thursday and Sunday.

Was I dispensed because I was in a different diocese on the day?

This leads me to the bigger question of who's jurisdiction are you under while traveling or moving? I suppose you have to follow the rules of where ever you are?

You are fine. When there is a requirement to observe a holy day of obligation, all that is required is to attend a Mass on that day, not to attend a Mass that happens to use the readings and prayers proper to that particular feast -- something you yourself have no control over. (Weddings and funerals, for instance, should they be celebrated on a day of obligation, would satisfy the obligation.) Since you attended Mass on Thursday and Sunday, you clearly met your Sunday obligation, and if you had an obligation to attend on Thursday (which is a more complicated question) then you met that as well. The fact that neither of those Masses used the readings from the Ascension, although perhaps disappointing from your standpoint, has no bearing whatsoever on the question of the attendance obligation.

**1ke** · #6 May 22, '12, 10:52 am

Can. 12 §1. Universal laws bind everywhere all those for whom they were issued.

§2. All who are actually present in a certain territory, however, are exempted from universal laws which are not in force in that territory.

§3. Laws established for a particular territory bind those for whom they were issued as well as those who have a domicile or quasi-domicile there and who at the same time are actually residing there, without prejudice to the prescript of ⇒ can. 13.

Can. 13 §1. Particular laws are not presumed to be personal but territorial unless it is otherwise evident.

§2. Travelers are not bound:

1/ by the particular laws of their own territory as long as they are absent from it unless either the transgression of those laws causes harm in their own territory or the laws are personal;

2/ by the laws of the territory in which they are present, with the exception of those laws which provide for public order, which determine the formalities of acts, or which regard immovable goods located in the territory.

**adrift** · #7 May 22, '12, 11:19 am

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Originally Posted by 1ke

Can. 12 §1. Universal laws bind everywhere all those for whom they were issued.

§2. All who are actually present in a certain territory, however, are exempted from universal laws which are not in force in that territory.

§3. Laws established for a particular territory bind those for whom they were issued as well as those who have a domicile or quasi-domicile there and who at the same time are actually residing there, without prejudice to the prescript of ⇒ can. 13.

Can. 13 §1. Particular laws are not presumed to be personal but territorial unless it is otherwise evident.

§2. Travelers are not bound:

1/ by the particular laws of their own territory as long as they are absent from it unless either the transgression of those laws causes harm in their own territory or the laws are personal;

2/ by the laws of the territory in which they are present, with the exception of those laws which provide for public order, which determine the formalities of acts, or which regard immovable goods located in the territory.

Ike thank you what the good Father's taught me is correct