Sign petition to ban anti-Pope group from World Youth Day!!

[Thea]

hi I just added Fidei's message to the Forum at the main UK Catholic newspaper site

[marvin]

Done! Thanks for the heads up, Fidei.

[Ani Ibi]

Originally Posted by Fidei Defensor

PetitionOnline won't let me add a Spanish translation. S**t!

OK, I just received a pm from Franze. He is online. I just read the changes he made to the Spanish peticion. His changes read really well. So we have a Spanish petition now! We just have to get it on line and ask Franze to send the Spanish letter to various bloggers and small newspapers in Spain.

Also Franze: cuales son los paises los mas ortodoxos en el latinoamerica? Y puedes mandar alla la carta con el vincula de la peticion a la prensa y a los blogueros ? Te puedo ayudar.

Sabes el nombre del nuncio en espana? Su direccion?

[Franze]

Muchos catolicos han leido que una banda rock de Argentina que va a actuar en la Jornada Mundial de la Juventud en Colonia (Alemania) ha hecho publico unas declaraciones que afrentan al papa y a la iglesia católica. Esta banda rock se llama ‘Rescate.’ Dos ejemplos de sus declaraciones ofensivas son:

"personalmente, no pensamos que el papa sea el representante del Dios en la tierra. Jesús vino a eliminar cualquier intermediario entre el Dios y el hombre, y por lo tanto tenemos una relación directa con él."


"... la fuerza del papa es más política que espiritual. Segun algunos, este papa es muy ortodoxo, muy rígido; ademas le falta el espiritu ecuménico pero nos puede sorprender porque quizá las situaciones politicas inevitables le forzará a cambiar. Es evidente que, para tomar el lugar de Juan Paul II, este papa debe ser mas politico que espiritual.”


La Jornada Mundial de la Juventud es un suceso catolico patrocinado y dirigido por el papa. Ojala que estemos de acuerdo en que esta banda rock no deberia usar este evento para distribuir los puntos de vista que contradigan lo que ensena la iglesia y que le afrenten al papa.



¿Podría usted ayudarnos a cancelar el contrato de esta banda rock, por favor? Ademas, hay una petición electronica tratada al Arzobispo Gabriel Montalvo, nuncio a los Estados Unidos. La petición se puede encontrar por este vinculo:



http://www.petitiononline.com/wyd2005/petition.html

Podria usted darle el vinculo a tanta gente como sea posible, por favor? La Jornada Mundial de la Juventud va a pasar el 15 agosto. Nos queda poco tiempo. Muchisimas gracias por su buena voluntad.

[Ani Ibi]

Thank you again, Franze.

[Aureole]

Originally Posted by Ani Ibi

Hey, we have 35 signatures. And is that the Michael Moore who made the 9/11 movie who signed?

Yeah, and can you believe I'm not even getting paid for that? I worked hard to spread propaganda!

[Ani Ibi]

Here is the link to the Spanish petition:

Esto es el vinculo de la peticion en espanol:

http://www.petitiononline.com/norescue/petition.html

Franze and Fidei, I took out one clause about 'defaming' because that's sort of in and out legally and I think it is enough just saying what the Church says, what Rescate says, and that we think that what the band says is wrong. Since it is my name given as the author of the petition, I do not want to make allegations that I am not prepared to stick by. (Headache prevention)

Franze: ya tenemos una peticion en espanol. Que vamos a hacer entonces?

[Sirach14]

Done

[Lost&Found]

This is very shameful that this band will be performing. I looked at the petition and it hasn't caught fire yet. If people knew about this they would sign it. I assume the only people on there so far are people who have seen this thread. I would never ask for the CA database as a mailing list but if each of the signers so far sent to a few people maybe it would help. You'd pick "members" from the drop down menu, then signor 1 sends to the active members on members listing page 1, signor two sends an email to active members on page 2 and so on. I hope that wouldn't be stealing the CA database. Include a link to the petition in the email. Just a thought.

[Eden]

I would suggest posting this in several other forums on CA that have more traffic too. The WYD forum is not the busiest and I bet there are other members here who would sign if they knew about it.

[Ani Ibi]

Originally Posted by Eden

I would suggest posting this in several other forums on CA that have more traffic too. The WYD forum is not the busiest and I bet there are other members here who would sign if they knew about it.

Excellent idea, Eden. Can you post two or three 'asides' on some heavy threads? I am going to change my signature to give the petition link and the link to these threads. Some of you out there can consider doing the same.

Meanwhile any of you who post to other message boards, can you give Fidei's letter and the petition link there? Thanks. Ani

[Aureole]

I've changed my non-existant signature to help get the word out about the petition. I just checked it now and there are seventy-four at the moment.

[Ani Ibi]

Originally Posted by Aureole

I've changed my non-existant signature to help get the word out about the petition. I just checked it now and there are seventy-four at the moment.

74! Awesome! The Spanish petition only has 1.

[Marie]

Originally Posted by Ani Ibi

74! Awesome! The Spanish petition only has 1.

UMM! Well if it makes you feel any better, I could sign it but I don't speak Spanish. I can count to 10 though in Spanish.

Are we suppose to sign both?

[Aureole]

Originally Posted by Marie

Are we suppose to sign both?

I don't think so, at least I hope we don't. That would be quite confusing indeed. I think the Spanish one was put up for Spanish speaking people. Someone will clear this up for us!