Copyright Alert System

**edwest2** · #1 Jun 3, '12, 10:50 am

http://www.copyrightinformation.org/alerts

"Internet Service Providers Close to Implementing System to Punish Piracy
Internet providers, along with content creators, will roll out a system that guards against illegal BitTorrent downloads as early as July 1"

"By Jason Koebler
April 4, 2012 RSS Feed Print

"Content creators and Internet service providers took another step towards preventing online piracy Monday by naming the head of an agency that will help develop a "graduated" set of punitive measures for suspected online pirates.

"The move to tap Jill Lesser as head of the Center for Copyright Information (CCI), which will develop the guidelines, suggests that ISPs are quickly advancing towards launching a system that guards against illegal downloads. The system is slated to start in early July.

"The challenge is to strike a balance between the two core notions of copyright protection and the First Amendment," Lesser wrote. It's already clear which side she's on: "While laws that protect intellectual property remain strong and enforcement efforts continue, technology has tipped the balance away from the interests of most creators and artists."

"The ease of distribution of copyrighted content has helped create a generation of people who believe that all content should be free. The notion that artists and creators, and even the big companies that finance, produce and deliver their creations, don't have the right to own and control their distribution, simply cannot be."

So, if I create something, I should own it and decide how I will be compensated and how it will be distributed. People should not be able to take it for nothing.

Peace,
Ed

sedonaman · #2 Jun 3, '12, 12:20 pm

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Originally Posted by edwest2

...So, if I create something, I should own it and decide how I will be compensated and how it will be distributed. People should not be able to take it for nothing.

Peace,
Ed

Right. And once you are wealthy enough from selling it, you can contribute to a political party that has established a reputation for taking other people's money and spending it on your favorite causes.

**edwest2** · #3 Jun 3, '12, 6:01 pm

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Originally Posted by sedonaman

Right. And once you are wealthy enough from selling it, you can contribute to a political party that has established a reputation for taking other people's money and spending it on your favorite causes.

Wha... What? I have no political party affiliations. None. Do you not vote for your favorite causes?

Peace,
Ed

**adrift** · #4 Jun 3, '12, 6:16 pm

People should get paid for their property.

The one that gets me though is a copyright is assumed for a photograph shot 75 years ago of your relative. You would like to have a copy of great granddad to share with the rest of the family but do not take it to Wal-Mart without a release. How do you get a release from a company that has been out of business for fifty years by and unknown photographer?

sedonaman · #5 Jun 4, '12, 5:22 am

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Originally Posted by adrift

People should get paid for their property.

The one that gets me though is a copyright is assumed for a photograph shot 75 years ago of your relative. You would like to have a copy of great granddad to share with the rest of the family but do not take it to Wal-Mart without a release. How do you get a release from a company that has been out of business for fifty years by and unknown photographer?

They must have gotten sued for copying a photo taken by a professional. As a result, the word came down: "No copying any photos without a release. Period."

sedonaman · #6 Jun 4, '12, 5:27 am

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Originally Posted by edwest2

Wha... What? I have no political party affiliations. None. Do you not vote for your favorite causes?

Peace,
Ed

Just speaking hypothetically.

I see nothing wrong with contributing to political campaigns, but not for preventing others from succeeding, especially when their success costs me nothing.

Megan7 · #7 Jun 4, '12, 6:40 am

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Originally Posted by edwest2

http://www.copyrightinformation.org/alerts

"Internet Service Providers Close to Implementing System to Punish Piracy
Internet providers, along with content creators, will roll out a system that guards against illegal BitTorrent downloads as early as July 1"

"By Jason Koebler
April 4, 2012 RSS Feed Print

"Content creators and Internet service providers took another step towards preventing online piracy Monday by naming the head of an agency that will help develop a "graduated" set of punitive measures for suspected online pirates.

"The move to tap Jill Lesser as head of the Center for Copyright Information (CCI), which will develop the guidelines, suggests that ISPs are quickly advancing towards launching a system that guards against illegal downloads. The system is slated to start in early July.

"The challenge is to strike a balance between the two core notions of copyright protection and the First Amendment," Lesser wrote. It's already clear which side she's on: "While laws that protect intellectual property remain strong and enforcement efforts continue, technology has tipped the balance away from the interests of most creators and artists."

"The ease of distribution of copyrighted content has helped create a generation of people who believe that all content should be free. The notion that artists and creators, and even the big companies that finance, produce and deliver their creations, don't have the right to own and control their distribution, simply cannot be."

So, if I create something, I should own it and decide how I will be compensated and how it will be distributed. People should not be able to take it for nothing.

Peace,
Ed

Thanks for the thread & links Ed!

PAX

**Dale_M** · #8 Jun 4, '12, 7:38 am

Ed, you posted the wrong link!

To keep us on the right side of the copyright issue, here is a link to the news article quoted in the first post:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...-punish-piracy

The Center for Copyright Information is comprised chiefly of the the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and five major US internet service providers: AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon.

The organization seeks to implement a "six strikes" program. This would involve notifying a customer if his account is being used for online piracy, educating about alternatives, slowing the speed of a user's internet account and ultimately suspension of internet service. Arbitration of penalties via the American Arbitration Association would be available.

Reportedly, the ISPs are worried about alienating their customers so an advisory board comprised of known consumer advocates has been created. However, the advisory board holds no power in the organization.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_1...online-piracy/

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...dvisory-board/

The article which Ed quoted is from April. Last month there was word that implementation of the "six strikes" policy may not take place in July.

Quote:

“The dates mentioned in the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) are not hard deadlines but were intended to keep us on track to have the Copyright Alert System up and running as quickly as possible and in the most consumer friendly manner possible,” a CCI spokesperson told TorrentFreak. “We do not intend to launch until we are confident that the program is consumer friendly and able to be implemented in a manner consistent with all of the goals of the MOU. We expect our implementation to begin later this year.”

The group also clarified that while repeated offenses may result in bandwidth throttling and service suspensions for those caught downloading pirated material, no permanent service disconnections will result from this new policy.

http://news.yahoo.com/copyright-cop-...173558067.html

**adrift** · #9 Jun 4, '12, 8:06 am

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Originally Posted by sedonaman

They must have gotten sued for copying a photo taken by a professional. As a result, the word came down: "No copying any photos without a release. Period."

Your right. They will copy it if the photo is 100 yrs

kelvinf · #10 Jun 4, '12, 8:16 am

It will be interesting to see what they come up with this time around. If it's same old stuff, I don't anything changing.

**edwest2** · #11 Jun 4, '12, 8:26 am

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Originally Posted by Dale_M

Ed, you posted the wrong link!

To keep us on the right side of the copyright issue, here is a link to the news article quoted in the first post:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...-punish-piracy

The Center for Copyright Information is comprised chiefly of the the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and five major US internet service providers: AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon.

The organization seeks to implement a "six strikes" program. This would involve notifying a customer if his account is being used for online piracy, educating about alternatives, slowing the speed of a user's internet account and ultimately suspension of internet service. Arbitration of penalties via the American Arbitration Association would be available.

Reportedly, the ISPs are worried about alienating their customers so an advisory board comprised of known consumer advocates has been created. However, the advisory board holds no power in the organization.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_1...online-piracy/

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...dvisory-board/

The article which Ed quoted is from April. Last month there was word that implementation of the "six strikes" policy may not take place in July.

http://news.yahoo.com/copyright-cop-...173558067.html

Thanks for your help, Dale.

The bottom line: infringing sites will be shut down. Individual users will get a warning.

Peace,
Ed

Cristiano · #12 Jun 4, '12, 8:27 am

Copyright laws exist and thus they should be respected; however, I do not see anyone up in arms in relation to the methods that are used to enforce such laws. It is quite obvious that RIAA has the approach that the ends justify the means, and the methods that they use often are at least immoral if not illegal (e.g. the investigations done by MediaSentry without a license).

sedonaman · #13 Jun 4, '12, 8:53 am

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Originally Posted by adrift

Your right. They will copy it if the photo is 100 yrs

Doesn't copyright protection extend to 75 years beyond the life of the author? Perhaps someone can shed some light?

**edwest2** · #14 Jun 4, '12, 9:46 am

From the U.S. Copyright Office.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/fa....html#duration

Peace,
Ed

**edwest2** · #15 Jun 4, '12, 9:48 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cristiano

Copyright laws exist and thus they should be respected; however, I do not see anyone up in arms in relation to the methods that are used to enforce such laws. It is quite obvious that RIAA has the approach that the ends justify the means, and the methods that they use often are at least immoral if not illegal (e.g. the investigations done by MediaSentry without a license).

For those of us who are unfamiliar, could you provide a link or some background info?

Peace,
Ed