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Jun 7, '12, 4:26 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
I was born and raised Catholic so I don't have much experience in other churches. However, one night I went to see my best friends fiancé perform at a non denominational church. She is an up and coming Christian singer. Anyways, there was a service before her performance so I sat and observed.
The pastor was having a hard time getting the audience as riled up as he wanted. Out of frustration he said, "Why so quiet? What are you guys, Catholic?" Obviously he had no clue I was in the audience but he said in in somewhat of a condescending tone.
I should have stood up and said, "Proud of it!" but I didn't  Any ways that's my limited experience haha.
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Jun 7, '12, 4:34 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
Protestants get brought up every now and then.
The only time I can remember hearing the Roman Catholic Church brought up was by necessity when the priest, a former Eastern Catholic was using his visit to a Roman Catholic controlled holy site (something related to St. Patrick, I believe) to illustrate the point of his sermon.
An excellent sermon which would have spoken universally to all Christians.
edit: I'm thinking in the Sermon. I'm sure I've heard the RC's or EC's brought up more often in casual conversation after, but again, Protestants come up more often. Probably because the overwhelming majority of Christians around here are Protestant.
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Jun 7, '12, 5:22 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
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Originally Posted by Patavium
A question for our nonCatholic friends, and former nonCatholic friends. Does the Church YOU attend spends time during the services, bible studies, and other church activities talking about the Catholic Church?
if Yes, Do you know why they did this? What was the purpose?
if now you are Catholic, is this the same experience at Mass in the Catholic Church? or in other activities affiliated directly to the Catholic parish you attend?
My experience
I am a born and raised Catholic. I lapsed during some period, but returned to the Catholic Church. During my 14 years as Catholic, I went to a Jesuit High School, and I attended for years Mass, I NEVER heard about other noncatholic christians teachings or mentioning of them during Mass. I learned about noncatholic christians through books, and private talk (with fellow catholics, priests) outside the parish services.
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Rarely is the CC brought up, and never in a derogatory way. At times in a catechesis setting, such as a Bible class, comparatives are made to Rome, and also Reformed or Baptist, etc.If other communions are brought up in homiletics, it is for comparison, not bashing.
Jon
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Jun 7, '12, 6:34 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
Perhaps this belongs in its own thread, but what about the inverse question, how often do you have non-Catholic Churches brought up in Catholic Churches.
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Jun 7, '12, 6:40 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
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Originally Posted by Patavium
A question for our nonCatholic friends, and former nonCatholic friends. Does the Church YOU attend spends time during the services, bible studies, and other church activities talking about the Catholic Church?
if Yes, Do you know why they did this? What was the purpose?
if now you are Catholic, is this the same experience at Mass in the Catholic Church? or in other activities affiliated directly to the Catholic parish you attend?
My experience
I am a born and raised Catholic. I lapsed during some period, but returned to the Catholic Church. During my 14 years as Catholic, I went to a Jesuit High School, and I attended for years Mass, I NEVER heard about other noncatholic christians teachings or mentioning of them during Mass. I learned about noncatholic christians through books, and private talk (with fellow catholics, priests) outside the parish services.
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Pat,
Never heard anything bad about the Catholic church whatsoever in church or any church activity. Only references were good such as Mother Teresa and a great boyscout program.
I once attended a Reformation Day in a Lutheran church. It was long ago and I remember hothing negative about the Catholic church, strange as it seems.
Rob
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Jun 7, '12, 6:51 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
I've never heard the Catholic Church mentioned at the Episcopal parish I attend. At the Catholic parish I attend with my wife and son, however, the Catholic Church is talked about all the time. Sometimes the priest says condescending things about other Christians as well, but not often.
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Jun 7, '12, 8:22 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
Similar to Cavaradossi's post, in our view we are the Catholic Church, and confess it every liturgy when reciting the Nicene Creed. So in that sense, yes, it does, as does every Orthodox church. The modern-day church of Rome, however, is not really mentioned. Sometimes we mention past Roman bishops from long ago (pre-Chalcedon, of course) or other Romans if it is the day to celebrate their lives according to the Synaxarium (e.g., St. Arsenius). I've never heard any modern Roman Catholic or the RCC mentioned in a sermon or elsewhere, though. The Copts did not have as much exposure to the post-Orthodox Roman Church as their fellow Chalcedonian Byzantines did, so I've actually never even heard them talk about Coptic Catholics, either, though they seem to be aware that such a thing exists. One of the Ethiopians who used to attend our Church was very happy to hear that I used to be Roman Catholic, though (this conversation was completely outside the church, when we were driving somewhere), She said "So that's why you don't have problems with the saints!"  I thought that was nice. That's as close to I've ever gotten to talking about the Roman Church with anyone from church. Sorry.
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Jun 7, '12, 8:58 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
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Perhaps this belongs in its own thread, but what about the inverse question, how often do you have non-Catholic Churches brought up in Catholic Churches.
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Not during Mass. We focus as well as you fellow Orthodox in the celebration of the Eucharist, and Jesus Christ.
Sometimes, the topic is brought as talk between parishioners, and priest and parishioners. The attitude I have seen on priest is with much charity.
For Orthodox, I spent many years without even knowing of the Orthodox. I learned about the Orthodox Church by talking about Church history with a priest. Priests can be very knowledgeable, and very open to have a conversation. May God bless our priests, and sustain their faith.
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Jun 7, '12, 10:27 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
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Does the Church YOU attend spends time during the services, bible studies, and other church activities talking about the Catholic Church?
if Yes, Do you know why they did this? What was the purpose?. . . .
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Yes, from time to time, our Rector quotes Catholic authors, the current Pope, and some previous Popes, in sermons and lessons, as well as Orthodox sources and prayers.
Peace,
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Jun 8, '12, 4:56 am
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
I've heard Catholic authors quoted by my evangelical pastors. If there's some community-wide service being held at another church, that's in the bulletin and mentioned in the announcements. I've never heard anything negative about other churches from any pastor ---discussing other churches negatively just isn't done in the various Evangelical churches I've been in.
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Jun 8, '12, 7:33 am
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
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However, I know that the Catholic Church, in its incredible charity, has declared Protestants to be brothers and sisters with them in Christ, which is a very wise move, in my opinion.
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The fact that that declaration even needed to be made is sad, IMO.
This is one of the places where the supposed snootiness (if i may) of the Catholic Church originates.
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Jun 8, '12, 10:37 am
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
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The fact that that declaration even needed to be made is sad, IMO.
This is one of the places where the supposed snootiness (if i may) of the Catholic Church originates.
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There are a number (fortunately a minority these days) of conservative Protestants who wouldn't reciprocate, though--they don't think Catholics are Christians. And there are many more evangelicals who say in generous tones, "I know Catholics can be Christians." This isn't quite as bad as it sounds to Catholics, because of course by "Christians" they mean something like what Catholics mean by "in a state of grace," and they don't think that any church exists whose members are all Christians in this sense. But it's certainly at least as snooty as anything the modern Catholic Church says about Protestants!
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Jun 8, '12, 11:51 am
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
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The fact that that declaration even needed to be made is sad, IMO.
This is one of the places where the supposed snootiness (if i may) of the Catholic Church originates.
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I don't think is snooty. It basically says to all Catholics that This is our OFFICIAL position. There might be Catholics out there (although few, and now going against the OFFICIAL position of the Church) that perhaps were as uncharitable by considering NonCatholics as Christian. The CC setting an OFFICIAL position shows that the Catholic Church CARES about fellow Christians that are not Catholic, and YES we care.
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Jun 8, '12, 1:07 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
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I don't think is snooty. It basically says to all Catholics that This is our OFFICIAL position. There might be Catholics out there (although few, and now going against the OFFICIAL position of the Church) that perhaps were as uncharitable by considering NonCatholics as NOT Christian. The CC setting an OFFICIAL position shows that the Catholic Church CARES about fellow Christians that are not Catholic, and YES we care.
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This is what I meant. I don't know where my NOT when?
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Jun 9, '12, 4:39 pm
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Re: Does the church YOU attend talks about the Catholic Church?
Actually this very topic is why I signed up for this forum, so I would like to get in on this discussion.
I move around a lot and as a result I am always looking for a new Church to attend, lately I have stopped going altogether as it seams I find faults with every Church I goto and then I had to take a hard look at my own life, why was *I* finding faults with so many Churches maybe the faults were with me.
Anyways to stay on topic, I have been to dozens, countless in fact, churches over the years and well all were protestant as far as I could tell and very few actually had anything to say on other churches in general. But I started attending a certain Baptist church a while back that appointed my dad as a deacon and so we ended up staying there for a long time because of that alone, not only did they have nothing but negative things to say about the Catholic church, they taught heavily that they alone were the last remnants of the only true church and only churches affiliated with them, non denominational independent fundamental baptist as they called it, were worthy of attending. For the most part at first I liked the church had good fellowship, lots of Bible study and so many good things, or things at the time I thought were good.
Then I started to notice things I never seen before, not only were they wrong about the saying they were the true church but I also was finding scripture after scripture that contradicted so many of their teachings. Pretty soon I felt like maybe that was not the church for me and left in disgust.
From there it has been well since 2008 since I have attended any church regularly but in reality I slowed down and started drifting around 2006. So it has been many years for me since I regularly attended a church. In fact as of right now it has been a full year since the last church service I have attended anywhere.
I was always raise mostly baptists, my mom was brought up baptist, but my dad well he was saved when I was 11 or 12 somewhere in that area, anyways he started by listening to Charles Stanley on the radio and when he was moved to find a church he went looking for one like what was described on the radio, at that time I was personally attending a four square church.
From there we shopped around as you say until we "settled" on southern baptist for a while. I never liked them for some reason, felt like they put too much emphasis on well being mean and not enough on being loving. Then we somehow, and for the life of me I can not remember how, fell into that fundamental church and it was all downhill from there.
As for why I am here, well I started going to collage in spring of 2011 and my first class was a US history class and it had been ten years since I had left high school so my history was well shady at best, so it made me question a lot of my personal views when we started reading about the early US colonies and the reformation and the like. Since then I have been on a quest to get right with God, and that is what lead me here I prayed for him to lead me and I asked google a question and this sight came up. Here I am.
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