Fire in Juárez destroys church, spares Virgin of Guadalupe image

dmelosi · #1 Jun 14, '12, 11:00 am

http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_20855814

This is pretty fascinating.

losh14 · #2 Jun 14, '12, 11:37 am

Not sure if this is miraculous ... let the icon be cleaned of soot and then decide. It's certainly blackened on the left side and it looks like in the relief (seems to be a carved icon rather than a painted copy), so this may very well be damaged.

Gorillaman · #3 Jun 14, '12, 1:52 pm

The image of la morenita is the only image of mary that is pure, yes all others are beautiful, but she's the only one that left behind a picture of herself on San Juan Diegos tunic. Perhaps this is why she survived.

Same thing happened down here in San Juan del Valle, guy crashed a plane into the church, but the virgin image survived unscathed...that's why they built a basilica down here. Check it out!

Viva la morenita!

roselily · #4 Jun 14, '12, 3:56 pm

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Originally Posted by dmelosi

http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_20855814

This is pretty fascinating.

When I read at the end of the link that the fire destroyed other images, I thought it might be our Lady 's image was made from hardwood, some hardwoods are not easy to damage by fire. See like oak tree is hardwood and hard to be burn, but some softwood is easy to be on fire. Think of it: our Lady will not allow to damage her Son our Redeemer's image but just left her own image if this is a miracle.

Gorillaman · #5 Jun 14, '12, 5:25 pm

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Originally Posted by roselily

When I read at the end of the link that the fire destroyed other images, I thought it might be our Lady 's image was made from hardwood, some hardwoods are not easy to damage by fire. See like oak tree is hardwood and hard to be burn, but some softwood is easy to be on fire. Think of it: our Lady will not allow to damage her Son our Redeemer's image but just left her own image if this is a miracle.

Like I said before...he images of Christ on the crucifix are images that we have developed out of texts...but the virgen de guadalupe is truly the only image of Mary left by her on the tunic. It is a true depiction. And maybe god left her image to exemplify her importance to us. She is the blessed mother...

But you also make a very good point.

But I think it is indeed a miracle.

catholicanne · #6 Jun 15, '12, 6:11 am

The article says, "The cause of the fire was ruled accidental after officials found the chapel was illegally taking its electricity from a utility pole." Anyone else found that ironic?

Other than that amusing sentence, I think it's a beautiful story, sure to inspire many and hopefully bring some people back to the church.

Brooklyn · #7 Jun 15, '12, 6:15 am

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Originally Posted by losh14

Not sure if this is miraculous ... let the icon be cleaned of soot and then decide. It's certainly blackened on the left side and it looks like in the relief (seems to be a carved icon rather than a painted copy), so this may very well be damaged.

Take a look at this picture and understand that everything around it was completely destroyed. There was no extra protection around the image, and yet there it is. There is a little soot damage, but nothing else. This is nothing less than a miracle.

I would offer that there were probably angels around the image protecting it.

roselily · #8 Jun 15, '12, 2:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Gorillaman

Like I said before...he images of Christ on the crucifix are images that we have developed out of texts...but the virgen de guadalupe is truly the only image of Mary left by her on the tunic. It is a true depiction. And maybe god left her image to exemplify her importance to us. She is the blessed mother...

But you also make a very good point.

But I think it is indeed a miracle.

Thanks!

Hail Mary! Full of Grace!
Gracious Lord!