What's with all the anti women threads recently?? - Page 33

Serap · #**481** Jun 20, '12, 11:47 am

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Originally Posted by The Bucket

I assure you that I am the lucky one and that there has been many times where I have failed to live up to the vocation of marriage and in quite serious ways. I know I've wounded her deeply at times and I wounded myself in the process. I'm not talking the most grievous of all offenses, but grave ones nevertheless. I thank her daily that she has helped me put my own life back together and we've gotten our marriage back to a far more healthy place like the way it was when we first started this journey.

So I'm not trying to assert some kind of supremacy over others in how I've executed the charge Christ has given me because I have fallen tremendously short of it for too long. Sadly I clearly knew what the vocation of marriage was all about from the start and along the way I allowed the distraction of the world and the temptation of sin to nearly tear us apart. Makes me quite a bit worse than those who didn't really know what they were doing. I am quite fortunate that my wife helped me return to God fully as it has helped us repair ourselves as well.

life is a long journey...God bless.

johnnyjones · #**482** Jun 20, '12, 12:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Debora123

We are Catholic not protestant. There are a lot of things in the bible that are not binding on Catholics.

But for what it's worth, St Paul doesn't teach that women should all submit to their husbands, and neither does the Church. But rather, the teaching is that each spouse has to submit to each other.

One of the posters here did a really good job of addressing this on the very first page of this thread:

Actually the man is the head of the woman, and God is the head of Christ. Some arrogant men take that to the extreme, but there is a functional hiearchy.

LightBound · #**483** Jun 20, '12, 12:15 pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyjones

Actually the man is the head of the woman, and God is the head of Christ. Some arrogant men take that to the extreme, but there is a functional hiearchy.

Let's try that again Johnny! You might want to amend your post to read that the husband is the head of the wife. not that man is the head of the women. That functional hierachy is only commanded within the marriage.

LightBound · #**484** Jun 20, '12, 12:16 pm

Oh Dear Lord, please get this thread closed! I got sucked back into it!!

johnnyjones · #**485** Jun 20, '12, 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by LightBound

Let's try that again Johnny! You might want to amend your post to read that the husband is the head of the wife. not that man is the head of the women. That functional hierachy is only commanded within the marriage.

In marriage, yes.

ShanaA1984 · #**486** Jun 20, '12, 12:19 pm

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Originally Posted by LightBound

Oh Dear Lord, please get this thread closed! I got sucked back into it!!

Same here. This thread is like a bad train wreck. You cannot help but look even though you shouldn't

LightBound · #**487** Jun 20, '12, 12:21 pm

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Originally Posted by ShanaA1984

Same here. This thread is like a bad train wreck. You cannot help but look even though you shouldn't

Like a bad train wreck caused by a dead horse that was beaten, resurrected, and beaten again

ShanaA1984 · #**488** Jun 20, '12, 12:25 pm

LOL

aloe · #**489** Jun 20, '12, 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by BlueEyedLady

The anti woman thing around here lately has really started to freak me out. I really didn't know that there were still so many people who believe that women...

I agree very much. Even though I am someone who loves being a wife/mom, the vibe here in many threads is not flattering and in fact hurts my faith, not builds it up.

Serap · #**490** Jun 20, '12, 12:32 pm

And I'm the neck that turns my husband's head...

I never let him forget it!!!

johnnyjones · #**491** Jun 20, '12, 1:10 pm

I love and respect women but I think some women interpret the traditional view held by men as "anti woman". Some men take it to far by saying a woman needs to stay home which is so antiquated it not worth discussing.

Woman must remember that many men were taught to view woman as the "weaker sex". Society for ages has encouraged that and sometimes still does. I think the biggest dillema for men is seperating the social world with the work world. Many women want the chivelry connected to dating or marriage but in the work environment men must abandon their innate or taught views towards women.

I have had to change my outlook on women in the last 10 years. I have seen women do almost any job men can do, and make sure I stick up for them when they need an advocate. I know it's been a hard road for women, but outside of the real male knuckleheads, many guys are genuinely trying to have newer balanced view of women, while still being men. Most importantly though, although this modern era has caused a sometimes unbalanced perspective on the sexes, we are Christian men and women, and that is where we should differ from the world in how we interact. Peace.

Serap · #**492** Jun 20, '12, 1:13 pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyjones

I love and respect women but I think some women interpret the traditional view held by men as "anti woman". Some men take it to far by saying a woman needs to stay home which is so antiquated it not worth discussing.

Woman must remember that many men were taught to view woman as the "weaker sex". Society for ages has encouraged that and sometimes still does. I think the biggest dillema for men is seperating the social world with the work world. Many women want the chivelry connected to dating or marriage but in the work environment men must abandon their innate or taught views towards women.

I have had to change my outlook on women in the last 10 years. I have seen women do almost any job men can do, and make sure I stick up for them when they need an advocate. I know it's been a hard road for women, but outside of the real male knuckleheads, many guys are genuinely trying to have newer balanced view of women, while still being men. Most importantly though, although this modern era has caused a sometimes unbalanced perspective on the sexes, we are Christian men and women, and that is where we should differ from the world in how we interact. Peace.

Spoken from the heart. thank you.

Debora123 · #**493** Jun 20, '12, 1:48 pm

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Originally Posted by ShanaA1984

I very much hope that you are right. But I really don't see myself having any luck with a protestant either, because depending on the branch he follows, he could very well think along the same lines as those few posters on here.

None of the Catholic men I know are like some of the few here. You'll be perfectly fine.

Debora123 · #**494** Jun 20, '12, 1:57 pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyjones

Actually the man is the head of the woman, and God is the head of Christ. Some arrogant men take that to the extreme, but there is a functional hiearchy.

You're responding to a post from page #5 of a 30+ page thread. This issue has already been addressed and put to rest. Please see post # 129 here: http://forums.catholic.com/showthrea...=686267&page=9

And stick to the current posts and discussion. Thank you.

Debora123 · #**495** Jun 20, '12, 2:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Serap

I love men...I am a feminist. I love masculinity; I love feeling cared for and protected. I love being respected and cherished.

Thanks to all the men out there who love women, their femininity and their strength.

Thanks to all the men out there who are not afraid of their masculinity and can tap into their softer loving side without feeling inferior to women.

Agreed 100%. And I too will leave this thread, as it has also become an anti-women thread.

Thank you to The Bucket, AngryAtheist, VeritasLuxMae, and Crescentinus for your contributions and for protecting our dignity as human beings equal in greatness to all the rest of you.

"The woman came from a man's rib. Not from his feet to be walked on. Not from his head to be superior. But from his side to be equal... under his arm to be protected... and next to his heart to be loved."