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Jul 3, '12, 7:50 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Originally Posted by Gorillaman
haha mule muffins ...ill have to use that one. look man, the way i see it, homosexuality is homosexuality, just like hetero is hetero,
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I understand that you see it that way, but you have fallen for a popular pagan myth which is inconsistent with the Faith. While heterosexuality is disordered due to the sin of Adam and Eve, the attraction between men and women is not disordered, but the sexual attraction between 2 men is. They are not “just like”.
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these guys arent pedophiles because their homosexual...theyre pedophiles because they act upon urges that are harmful to our most innocent and beautiful creatures (kids)...
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Again, you've fallen for one of society's fabrications. That word “pedophile” isn't in the Bible. Anywhere. It isn't even in the Catechism. That doesn't mean it's not a sin, it means it's covered by terms like “homosexual” or “fornication”. It's a convenient invention for the unfaithful to use because it allows for them to still have their immorality, while at the same time, giving some sort of air of morality, by scapegoating a smaller segment of Gays and fornicators.
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that is why some people say DP..im one of them...is it right? no. but i have to be honest with myself and with God...
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If it's not right, try to work on it. This is where some people can rightly feel that Catholics are homophobic and hateful.
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and honestly idk where your gettting the advocating the idea that i accept the death penalty for gay people with children unless they claim it was out of love. maybe thats what otheres are saying but its not what im saying. ill make it very simple...
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You give the impression that you are pro-DP in this post where you wrote, “some people say DP..im one of them”, and also in a previous post where you wrote, “I don't think it's midevil. I believe in it too .” Then, where I asked, “So all Brinkin has to do is say he's in love with those children, and he's off free”, you replied “Yes.” That was where I got it.
I should make a full disclosure statement here, and state that I am pro-choice Death Penalty, so I respect your right to advocate for the DP. At the same time, I uphold the Catechism, which does state that, “the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically nonexistent."68”
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sexually harm a child as an adult? i believe you should suffer, idk what that suffering should be..but it should hurt. Because Im ignorant and dense? maybe.
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If you know you are being ignorant and dense, so why are you doing it? Do you know that it is also being unfaithful? Perhaps, as you did write, “I'm not strong enough in my faith”. Try not to get banned, because people here can help you with that.
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Jul 3, '12, 9:58 pm
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Originally Posted by CatholicBoy1957
I understand that you see it that way, but you have fallen for a popular pagan myth which is inconsistent with the Faith. While heterosexuality is disordered due to the sin of Adam and Eve, the attraction between men and women is not disordered, but the sexual attraction between 2 men is. They are not “just like”.
Again, you've fallen for one of society's fabrications. That word “pedophile” isn't in the Bible. Anywhere. It isn't even in the Catechism. That doesn't mean it's not a sin, it means it's covered by terms like “homosexual” or “fornication”. It's a convenient invention for the unfaithful to use because it allows for them to still have their immorality, while at the same time, giving some sort of air of morality, by scapegoating a smaller segment of Gays and fornicators.
If it's not right, try to work on it. This is where some people can rightly feel that Catholics are homophobic and hateful.
You give the impression that you are pro-DP in this post where you wrote, “some people say DP..im one of them”, and also in a previous post where you wrote, “I don't think it's midevil. I believe in it too .” Then, where I asked, “So all Brinkin has to do is say he's in love with those children, and he's off free”, you replied “Yes.” That was where I got it.
I should make a full disclosure statement here, and state that I am pro-choice Death Penalty, so I respect your right to advocate for the DP. At the same time, I uphold the Catechism, which does state that, “the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically nonexistent."68”
If you know you are being ignorant and dense, so why are you doing it? Do you know that it is also being unfaithful? Perhaps, as you did write, “I'm not strong enough in my faith”. Try not to get banned, because people here can help you with that.
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Because I'm being honest. Am I close to getting banned? I really didn't know...dude imnot sure even wat your point here is...I'm simply saying my opinion...so you think that homosexuality is the same as pedophilia?
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Jul 4, '12, 5:55 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Sometimes.
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right just like being a priest sometimes means you rape children. sometimes, not all the time.
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Jul 4, '12, 8:56 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Soon we will see a lowering of the age of consent...
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In some parts of California, children are "able to give consent" for vaccinations. Although, for a trip to the zoo they need a parent's signature.
Unfortunately, you're probably right....
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Jul 4, '12, 9:08 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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All I can say is Thank You Jesus that prisoners have a moral code...that pervert will find himself dead with a shank in his back in a matter of days in the slammer.
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some States (like Texas) have whole prisons for only pedophiles just because of that ... so it probably won't happen. The system has to protect their own kind somehow.
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Jul 4, '12, 9:11 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Originally Posted by codephined
some States (like Texas) have whole prisons for only pedophiles just because of that ... so it probably won't happen. The system has to protect their own kind somehow.
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Everyday, I am learning more and more that Texas ain't as great as people want to make it out to be, to me it seems like California only 50 years behind.
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Jul 4, '12, 9:20 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Everyday, I am learning more and more that Texas ain't as great as people want to make it out to be, to me it seems like California only 50 years behind. 
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Their CPS is notorious for pedophiles ... google Texas Youth Commission Scandal. Senator Nancy Schafer too (killed, presumably because of her investigations). Texas Rangers blew the case wide open.
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Jul 4, '12, 9:27 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Their CPS is notorious for pedophiles ... google Texas Youth Commission Scandal. Senator Nancy Schafer too (killed, presumably because of her investigations). Texas Rangers blew the case wide open.
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Then you have Gubernor Perry....Mr. "I know how to raise your daughters better than you!"
That's why I couldn't support him in the 2012 Primaries. That and from LBJ and Bush II, I think I've had enough Texans to last me a lifetime.
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Jul 4, '12, 9:32 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Then you have Gubernor Perry....Mr. "I know how to raise your daughters better than you!"
That's why I couldn't support him in the 2012 Primaries. That and from LBJ and Bush II, I think I've had enough Texans to last me a lifetime.
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haa... and when he tried to say that it was the law that every girl must get a Gardisil shot, I called my kids' school and told them I'd sue if they shot my little girl up. Criminals
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Jul 4, '12, 9:35 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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haa... and when he tried to say that it was the law that every girl must get a Gardisil shot, I called my kids' school and told them I'd sue if they shot my little girl up. Criminals
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Good for you man, is that why you moved to Louisiana?
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Jul 4, '12, 10:13 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Originally Posted by Gorillaman
Because I'm being honest. Am I close to getting banned? I really didn't know...dude imnot sure even wat your point here is...I'm simply saying my opinion...so you think that homosexuality is the same as pedophilia?
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I like the honesty part, but now it appears that you are saying that honesty is incompatible with being learned and teachable. But then, there are those here who are ignorant, dense, and dishonest about it, so I believe we have real progress here today. Just be careful with the hate speech.
No, I don't think that homosexuality is the same as pedophilia. I don't know why you would ask that. I do see that your view of the difference between -adult on child sex, and adult on adult sex is profusely warped, but that doesn't mean, consequently, that I see them as the same, either. I don't think it's correct to say that homosexuality is pedophilia, although it often is. I am saying that the term pedophilia isn't necessary, because we already have two words to describe it: homosexuality, and fornication. For the absolutely most overwhelming majority of heterosexuals that engage in sex with children, they do not want to marry them. Of course there may be most rare exceptions even to that, since we know that the prophet Mohammed married Aisha at age 8.
So let's go back to my first post in this thread. I wrote, “If we administer the DP to those who are Gay with children, or fornicate with children, can't we at least give a year or two jail to other Gays and fornicators?” In stating that, I was not stating that all homosexuals should equally be given the DP, I was simply stating that if those Gays who are doing Gay things to children should get the DP, then the other Gays should, at the absolute very least, get a couple of years in jail. Your warped view seems to be that the other Gays should be left off free. I realize that you are simply stating your opinion, but I am also stating mine. I believe in balanced justice, and I have faith in the teachings of the Church. Since we now have homosexuality legalized for most, giving the DP to limited segments of that group would be scapegoating. Do you know what scapegoating is? That's when you want to blame someone else for your own evil. It surely is not justice. It is to be expected that that some like Brinkin would get not much more than a slap on the wrist.
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Jul 4, '12, 10:18 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Good for you man, is that why you moved to Louisiana?
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Nah,... my kids live in Texas with their mother. It's not too bad of a drive between us though. The public school system is much better over there than it is in Louisiana at least.
unrelated, the Moderator just erased my other thread saying that it linked to a blog (the PDF and Infowars) and issued me a warning. How silly. I found it through Drudgereport, Robert Bay. Is the biggest news site on the internet a blog too? Happy Independence Day
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Jul 4, '12, 10:22 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Nah,... my kids live in Texas with their mother. It's not too bad of a drive between us though. The public school system is much better over there than it is in Louisiana at least.
unrelated, the Moderator just erased my other thread saying that it linked to a blog (the PDF and Infowars) and issued me a warning. How silly. I found it through Drudgereport, Robert Bay. Is the biggest news site on the internet a blog too? Happy Independence Day
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Wait til you see what he does next.
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Jul 4, '12, 10:29 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Wait til you see what he does next.
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As if I did something wrong! I came here to Catholic Answers to speak with like-minded people, not to start fights or break forum rules. lol this is childish.
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Jul 4, '12, 10:35 am
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Re: S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
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Originally Posted by codephined
As if I did something wrong! I came here to Catholic Answers to speak with like-minded people, not to start fights or break forum rules. lol this is childish.
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Hey I get a lot of infractions from Robert Bay, I ain't gonna start a fight...he's just doing his job. Sometimes I agree he was right and I was out of line, other times I disagree and think he's too sensitive, but irregardless Robert Bay is the moderator and he is doing his job whether we agree or not on his decisions to give warnings, infractions or thread removals.
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