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Jun 27, '12, 1:43 pm
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Science can't destroy Religion
Every Sunday, Wednesday and Friday night Scientists gather at the Church of Science...they can be seen at airports handing out leaflets seeking converts to the Gathering of Science to destroy Religion...the television airways are filled with stations dedicated to Scientists preaching that you must listen to the words of Science and confess your allegiance...thousands daily are donated to Scientists that promise that money donated as seed money will gain you everlasting wealth...
Physicists claim primacy of fact, while Chemists are hopelessly divided amongst themselves..inorganic, organic and Biochemistry...leadership of the Geologist meet weekly to celebrate rock day and Naaaahhhh..
Science is not organized like religion, Science isn't intended to do anything except look into what it is they choose to study..When the history of Science is examined what you see is Christian, Jew and others that actually had a concern for God...
Louis Pasteur
Alexander Fleming
Galileo
Nicholas Copernicus
Rene Descartes
Marie Curie
Gregor Mendel
Sir Francis Bacon
Johannes Kepler
Blaise Pascal
Isaac Newton
Robert Boyle
Michael Faraday
Willliam Thomson Kelvin
Max Planck
Albert Einstein
Science can't destroy religion and therefore must not be thought of as anything based in reality...
and you think?
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Jun 27, '12, 1:59 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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Originally Posted by CopticChristian
Science can't destroy religion and therefore must not be thought of as anything based in reality...
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Science is firmly rooted in reality.
But I don't think science will ever destroy religion.
Nothing will ever destroy religion.
We are a people of stories and folktales and we would be the poorer for losing that trait.
We will always tell each other fantastical tales and take delight in them.
Some people will always believe that man was created by a God, that the world is 6000 years old, that the world was flooded, and so on.
Sarah x 
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Jun 27, '12, 2:08 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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Originally Posted by atheistgirl
Science is firmly rooted in reality.
But I don't think science will ever destroy religion.
Nothing will ever destroy religion.
We are a people of stories and folktales and we would be the poorer for losing that trait.
We will always tell each other fantastical tales and take delight in them.
Some people will always believe that man was created by a God, that the world is 6000 years old, that the world was flooded, and so on.
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Sarah,
If you read Psychocybernetics you will come to understand that imagined reality is as real as anything else... 
Sounds like your in...
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Jun 27, '12, 2:16 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
True science cannot destroy religion but scientism can and is attempting to do so.
Most attacks against faith by people claiming science as their weapon know nothing about theology. They have a vague notion of it based on what they stopped learning at age 12 and think they know it all.
The various scientists who have attacked religion recently sound like uneducated children. I would never dare to talk about a subject about which I knew so little as they religion but since they think it's a matter of opinion they think they are free to declare whatever ignorance they have. It's ridiculous.
Real science is the study of natural phenomena, not speculation about things outside its boundaries. I only wish people would admit as much and leave theology to theologians.
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Jun 27, '12, 2:16 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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Sounds like your in... |
If there's cake and icecream, I'm in
Sarah x
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Struggle and conflict is neither good nor bad, it just is. Everything that grows experiences conflict. Conflict precedes clarity. Everything has the seasons of growth. Recognize - acknowledge - forgive and change. All of these things are done through conflict.
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Jun 27, '12, 2:59 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
Science explains the How of the world, and Religion explains the Why.
I have never seen why the two need conflict with each other, and most of the early great scientific minds didn't, either.
Indeed, to me, science points to the existence of God and His love for all of creation. How glorious to be a scientist and see the handiwork of God in all its intricate detail!
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Jun 27, '12, 3:06 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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Originally Posted by atheistgirl
Science is firmly rooted in reality.
But I don't think science will ever destroy religion.
Nothing will ever destroy religion.
We are a people of stories and folktales and we would be the poorer for losing that trait.
We will always tell each other fantastical tales and take delight in them.
Some people will always believe that man was created by a God, that the world is 6000 years old, that the world was flooded, and so on.
Sarah x |
Yes, and, Religion will never destroy science, either, because Science needs it's share of Fairy Tales like abiogenisis.
I am still waiting for Science to make up it's mind as to whether the Dinosaurs were killed off by a Comet/meteor or if they evolved into chickens! 
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Jun 27, '12, 5:45 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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I am still waiting for Science to make up it's mind as to whether the Dinosaurs were killed off by a Comet/meteor or if they evolved into chickens! |
My chickens are definately dinosaurs
If we only had the Bible to go by, we'd still be thinking we get striped cattle from looking at stripped bark!
I guess in some ways, the writers of those books were early scientists in the sense that they put forward a hypothesis that could be falsified
Sarah x
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Struggle and conflict is neither good nor bad, it just is. Everything that grows experiences conflict. Conflict precedes clarity. Everything has the seasons of growth. Recognize - acknowledge - forgive and change. All of these things are done through conflict.
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Jun 27, '12, 5:47 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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My chickens are definately dinosaurs
If we only had the Bible to go by, we'd still be thinking we get striped cattle from looking at stripped bark!
I guess in some ways, the writers of those books were early scientists in the sense that they put forward a hypothesis that could be falsified
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The lines are starting to blur more, but there is still a line. Impossible to predict the future, though the trend is clear.
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Jun 27, '12, 5:53 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
Properly reasoned science has no power to do so since it is a subset of truth.
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IDvolution - God "breathed" the super language of DNA into the "kinds" in the creative act. Buffalo
"We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is a thought of God."
Science presupposes the trustworthy, intelligent structure of matter, the design of creation.
"A man of conscience, is one who never acquires tolerance, well- being, success, public standing, and approval on the part of prevailing opinion, at the expense of truth."
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Jun 27, '12, 8:23 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
There was matter and then consciousness? Nay I say! There is consciousness and then matter!!
Quantum Physics regards,
Nimzovik 
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Jun 27, '12, 9:00 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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If there's cake and icecream, I'm in
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Girl,
Then all you need to do is start with Creative Visualization and it will be there....
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Jun 27, '12, 9:41 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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Properly reasoned science has no power to do so since it is a subset of truth.
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Please clarify your point? Are you trying to express a preference for the irrational over the rational?
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Jun 27, '12, 10:15 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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Yes, and, Religion will never destroy science, either, because Science needs it's share of Fairy Tales like abiogenisis. |
An origin of life by natural causes is now highly probable, see my article for Talkorigins.org, a leading evolution website:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abio...ginoflife.html
(BTW, in case that based on this you think I am an atheist: I am a Roman Catholic.)
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Jun 27, '12, 10:17 pm
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Re: Science can't destroy Religion
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Science is firmly rooted in reality.
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Yes, but not all reality is encompassed by scientific study, the study of the physical world.
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