Supreme Court Ruling on Health Care - Page 3

scipio337 · #31 Jun 28, '12, 7:36 am

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Originally Posted by irishpatrick

I disagree. I think this is an enormous win for Obama, and the left will become highly charged, and those in the middle will just go along.

I think there was more of a danger of an energized Obama base had it been overturned. Now they just have the tear up the "Supreme Court is politicized!!!!" script.

In my view, the decision does little for his campaign. It's still the economy.

**adrift** · #32 Jun 28, '12, 7:37 am

Could this be said that this is the largest tax hike?

scipio337 · #33 Jun 28, '12, 7:37 am

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Originally Posted by JimR-OCDS

Romney would have the states put the mandate in place.

Without the mandate, the program doesn't work.

Romeny put the mandate in Massachusetts, because he knew it wouldn't work otherwise.

Either way, if Romney is elected, he will not have the number of votes in Congress to thrown Obama Care out, and he knows it. The Senate is still in control of the democrats.

Jim

Maybe he can just choose not to enforce it, like DOMA, or certain immigration laws?

JimR-OCDS · #34 Jun 28, '12, 7:37 am

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Originally Posted by He Man

So now, Obama's pledge of no tax increases for those under $250k went out the window,again?

No it doesn't.

If you have health insurance, you don't pay the tax.

And why shouldn't those who refuse to buy insurance pay the tax?

After all, they're the one's who cost us who do, lots of money when they show up in ER's without health insurance.

Jim

**Joe 5859** · #35 Jun 28, '12, 7:37 am

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Originally Posted by Mickey

I can't believe that John Roberts was in the majority.

Indeed. The live stream I saw said the decision was 6-3, but now every article I have seen says 5-4. That means Roberts was the swing vote this time, not Kennedy.

I guess we'll be able to parse it out ourselves once the SCOTUS website posts the decision.

Bubba Switzler · #36 Jun 28, '12, 7:37 am

Bottom line: the Church will be required to fund abortions et alia.

**Mickey** · #37 Jun 28, '12, 7:37 am

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Originally Posted by adrift

Could this be said that this is the largest tax hike?

Yes.

Michael C · #38 Jun 28, '12, 7:38 am

And there's the final nail in the coffin. The government can do whatever they want. By nature governments grow and grow and grab more and more power.

The constitution is a joke. All of the judges on the supreme court are statists and benefit by the growing power of the government and police state. Anyone expecting liberty to be taken into consideration is kidding themselves.

Hooray for empire!!!

Dawnia · #39 Jun 28, '12, 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by adrift

Could this be said that this is the largest tax hike?

Yup...8% income tax hike

masondoggy · #40 Jun 28, '12, 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by adrift

Could this be said that this is the largest tax hike?

Not only that, but has there ever been such a drastic tax increase that would affect the middle class?

Good grief, I am sick to my stomach. I can only hope that this will increase support for Romney. This mandate is NOT popular with voters.

SeekNFind · #41 Jun 28, '12, 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by JimR-OCDS

After all, they're the one's who cost us who do, lots of money when they show up in ER's without health insurance.

Yes, so many people treat the ER like their doctor's office. It is such a burden on the system. Hopefully this is a step towards a more equitable health care system for everyone.

JimR-OCDS · #42 Jun 28, '12, 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by scipio337

Maybe he can just choose not to enforce it, like DOMA, or certain immigration laws?

Hell have to enforce it, because taxpayers will be footing the expensive bill of those who refuse to get health insurance and show up at hospital ERs.

Jim

He Man · #43 Jun 28, '12, 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by irishpatrick

So what? Do you think he or the left cares? Obama won huge--and I mean HUGE!

You're being overly dramatic. They didn't win huge at all, in terms of votes. Before the verdict, there was debate over which result would help the President more. Now, itss a slam dunk? You're just depressed.

5 months from an election, and an issue that ranks way below the economy. Does this help anyone feed their family tomorrow?

Time will tell whether this moves the polling needle, but historical odds say it will not swing any election. Odds says it will be about who makes the most compelling case about the economy.

irishpatrick · #44 Jun 28, '12, 7:40 am

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Originally Posted by tm30

HHS Mandate is now bulletproof.

Exactly.

cyguy · #45 Jun 28, '12, 7:40 am

another sad day for the unborn!