We're Catholics, Not Prudes! - Page 2

LoyalViews · #16 Jun 30, '12, 12:45 pm

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Originally Posted by triumphguy

Lutheran Cathedral:

Catholic Cathedral:

Protestant minister:

Catholic priest

Catholic beer

Protestant beer

whhhhat?

Protestant beer would be budweiser, it's a Lutheran name.

triumphguy · #17 Jun 30, '12, 12:48 pm

Catholic religious parade

Protestant religious parade

triumphguy · #18 Jun 30, '12, 12:58 pm

There's a difference in sensibilities. The fruits of the earth are to be enjoyed a gifts from God. Enjoyed but not abused certainly, but enjoyed and not avoided!

Allegra · #19 Jun 30, '12, 12:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Tarpeian Rock

I'm guessing it has more to do with alcohol than Sunday. That said, you'll have to document where the Church teaches that running a restaurant or place of common accommodation on. Sunday is a sin. Because if that's true, I've been to a whole lot of Communion Breakfasts that are damning all the attendees there.

If drinking is the sin, why does it matter if it's right after Mass? Isn't it a sin everyday?

Lancer · #20 Jun 30, '12, 1:08 pm

In the moral life...prudish is used as a backhanded slap in the face of a person who has the spiritual gift of prudence and is using it....most people who don't like prudence in a person's moral life...are quick to (label and ) use the term prude or prudish...to define that prudent person.

The Catechism (as usual) has the "last word" on your question...IMHO.

Pax Christi

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CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
SECOND EDITION

PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST
SECTION ONE
MAN'S VOCATION LIFE IN THE SPIRIT

CHAPTER ONE
THE DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN PERSON

ARTICLE 7
THE VIRTUES

I. THE HUMAN VIRTUES

1804 Human virtues are firm attitudes, stable dispositions, habitual perfections of intellect and will that govern our actions, order our passions, and guide our conduct according to reason and faith. They make possible ease, self-mastery, and joy in leading a morally good life. The virtuous man is he who freely practices the good.

The moral virtues are acquired by human effort. They are the fruit and seed of morally good acts; they dispose all the powers of the human being for communion with divine love.

The cardinal virtues

1805 Four virtues play a pivotal role and accordingly are called "cardinal"; all the others are grouped around them. They are: prudence, justice, fortitude, and temperance. "If anyone loves righteousness, [Wisdom's] labors are virtues; for she teaches temperance and prudence, justice, and courage."64 These virtues are praised under other names in many passages of Scripture.

1806 Prudence is the virtue that disposes practical reason to discern our true good in every circumstance and to choose the right means of achieving it; "the prudent man looks where he is going."65 "Keep sane and sober for your prayers."66 Prudence is "right reason in action," writes St. Thomas Aquinas, following Aristotle.67 It is not to be confused with timidity or fear, nor with duplicity or dissimulation. It is called auriga virtutum (the charioteer of the virtues); it guides the other virtues by setting rule and measure. It is prudence that immediately guides the judgment of conscience. The prudent man determines and directs his conduct in accordance with this judgment. With the help of this virtue we apply moral principles to particular cases without error and overcome doubts about the good to achieve and the evil to avoid.

III. THE GIFTS AND FRUITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

1830 The moral life of Christians is sustained by the gifts of the Holy Spirit. These are permanent dispositions which make man docile in following the promptings of the Holy Spirit.

1831 The seven gifts of the Holy Spirit are wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord. They belong in their fullness to Christ, Son of David.109 They complete and perfect the virtues of those who receive them. They make the faithful docile in readily obeying divine inspirations.

Let your good spirit lead me on a level path.110
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God . . . If children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ.111

1832 The fruits of the Spirit are perfections that the Holy Spirit forms in us as the first fruits of eternal glory. The tradition of the Church lists twelve of them: "charity, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, generosity, gentleness, faithfulness, modesty, self-control, chastity."112

**Holly3278** · #21 Jun 30, '12, 1:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Allegra

If drinking is the sin, why does it matter if it's right after Mass? Isn't it a sin everyday?

Drinking alcohol is not a sin if done in moderation. It is a sin if you are drinking to get drunk though.

Student09 · #22 Jun 30, '12, 1:16 pm

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Originally Posted by triumphguy

Protestant beer

whhhhat?

You need to meet some Lutherans I know.

Allegra · #23 Jun 30, '12, 1:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Holly3278

Drinking alcohol is not a sin if done in moderation. It is a sin if you are drinking to get drunk though.

I'm trying to understand fromt he point of view of those who criticize Catholics for going to a pub after Mass. I would venture to guess that the fast majority of people who go to a pub in the early afternoon are not up to getting sloshed yet.

triumphguy · #24 Jun 30, '12, 1:30 pm

Catholic statues:

Protestant statues:

anp1215 · #25 Jun 30, '12, 1:43 pm

People look at the Church's teachings on sexuality (no contraception, husband must climax inside wife, etc.) and misconstrue that as meaning that we hate sex and think sex itself as sinful.

LoyalViews · #26 Jun 30, '12, 1:44 pm

There's a BIG difference between the statues.

The protestant one is more "LOOK AT ME!"
Ours are more "Pray!"

TrueLight · #27 Jun 30, '12, 2:03 pm

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Originally Posted by LoyalViews

There's a BIG difference between the statues.

The protestant one is more "LOOK AT ME!"
Ours are more "Pray!"

Oh come on. The man is preaching.

Which is exactly what St Vincent Ferrer is doing here:

Allegra · #28 Jun 30, '12, 2:16 pm

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Originally Posted by TrueLight

Oh come on. The man is preaching.

Which is exactly what St Vincent Ferrer is doing here:

St. Vincent's mouth is open. I don't know what the Protestant statue is supposed to be doing but he looks like he's about to wack someone. (Probably because they went to a pub.)

anp1215 · #29 Jun 30, '12, 2:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Allegra

St. Vincent's mouth is open. I don't know what the Protestant statue is supposed to be doing but he looks like he's about to wack someone. (Probably because they went to a pub.)

hahahahahahaha. That just cracked me up.

triumphguy · #30 Jun 30, '12, 3:02 pm

Yeah, but St. Vincent has a dove, AND a halo!